Florida Alligator Spotted With Dead Body In It's Mouth
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Why in the world is this thread merged with the other Florida alligator story? These are two very different stories.
I used to live in Orlando and this hotel is crazy expensive so they definitely don't want you even knowing there's a chance of danger. I looked it up and it starts at ~$600/night.
The signs are there to protect said business/ park from being sued nothing more. It's not their fault because stupid people don't/can't take the time to read it. Odds are that the child is too young or to excited to read it. So it's up to the parents to do so. While I feel bad for anyone who losses a child/spouse in the end they should be read the rules.
I think in the end that's where the blame should lie.
Well Disney did not have any such overly specific signage because if they did, I'm pretty certain this particular father would not have put his child in harm's way. Willfully ignoring a clearly descriptive sign is one thing. Not explicitly stating that there are alligators in the water or that there's a risk of possibly fatal alligator attack is another. From a liability standpoint alone, Disney effed up, nevermind the human, emotional standpoint.
"Warning - alligators in the area" goes a long way and perhaps this child would have been alive.
The parents weren't stupid. Saying "F the alligators" and jumping into alligator infested waters (with signage) is stupid. And unless we've walked in these parents shoes and endured such a private hell, then it really should behoove us to be a bit more sensitive.
Why in the world is this thread merged with the other Florida alligator story? These are two very different stories.
I don't think it was merged - someone just posted a reply on the older thread about this latest incident at Disney World, and the conversation just took off from there. it probably would have been better if it had been posted as a new topic on it's own, but I guess the first person figured the subject was alligator-related.
Why in the world is this thread merged with the other Florida alligator story? These are two very different stories.
I used to live in Orlando and this hotel is crazy expensive so they definitely don't want you even knowing there's a chance of danger. I looked it up and it starts at ~$600/night.
I don't know about you but one thread suffices for all my GIANT AQUATIC REPTILE DEVOURS HUMAN posting needs.
I don't think it was merged - someone just posted a reply on the older thread about this latest incident at Disney World, and the conversation just took off from there. it probably would have been better if it had been posted as a new topic on it's own, but I guess the first person figured the subject was alligator-related.
There was a separate thread last night and this morning I couldn't find it for awhile and realized it ended up here.
I don't think it was merged - someone just posted a reply on the older thread about this latest incident at Disney World, and the conversation just took off from there. it probably would have been better if it had been posted as a new topic on it's own, but I guess the first person figured the subject was alligator-related.
No it was merged. There were two separate threads last night. Post #48 was the original post in the other thread.
Uh, if an alligator grabs your child while it is in your arms, the attack is so powerful and fast that it could still be fatal. Think snatch and grab, right out of your hand. Crocodilians grab with all they've got and then quickly submerge into the water. All in a second. Ever watch Nile crocs pick off a hapless wildebeest that is in a group. Grab, spin around, submerge in water with victim OR go farther out to drown the victim. The easy thing when it comes to stories like this is to blame the parent (i.e. "If it were MY child, I would have done.......") In the case of the gorilla death, blame the parent is appropriate. In this case? No. The culpability largely falls on Disney with this one. The signage was totally ambiguous and should have clearly stated "No swimming! there may be dangerous animals (including alligators) in the lagoon". But like I said, using the specific word "alligator" would be terribly bad for business for a place that peddles almost a virtual reality. Heck, I go there specifically for that mythical experience. If it were just for rides and such, you'd just go to Six Flags or a local park. But you go to Disney for the Disney experience.
Why would you bother to respond to me without even fully reading what I posted. Contrary to what your ASSUMING about alligator attacks, the link I posted and many other studies have clearly illustrated Alligators are exponentially less successful attacking out of the water then in it. Btw a Crocodile is a whole different beast then an Alligator. The fact that your comparing the two tells me that you haven't really researched either one too well.
If this had been a crocodile attack that happened in crocodile infested water that had no signs indicating such I would have a totally different opinion. In that case, even if the parents were walking 10 feet from the water, armed with hand guns and holding the child's hand; that attack still would have been unavoidable. This attack is a completely different story and normal parenting behavior would have prevented it.
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Originally Posted by kokonutty
I disagree that normal parenting might have prevented this horror. Helicopter parenting, on the other hand, may have but it also may have prevented the family from leaving home. In such a controlled environment as a Disney park one would not expect such a danger to exist, especially with no warning. After all, Disney built the lake and beach and furnished it to attract families.
So you consider not letting a 2 year old go into water alone that clearly is marked as "no swimming," in the middle of the night and without the parent being in the water with the child "helicopter parenting?" Seriously???
Over time it will. That their numbers had shrunk to the levels they had shrunk to prior to the 70s shows taht. They certainly shouldn't have gone as far as they did in the 70s making it illegal to practically stare at the things. When it's to the point that a body of water in DISNEY isn't safe, it should be obvious their numbers need to be reduced by whatever means necessary.
I agree with this. Unfortunately to many bleeding heart animal rights activists that fight anything in regards to disturbing wildlife.
No it was merged. There were two separate threads last night. Post #48 was the original post in the other thread.
You'd think if the mods decided to merge the two threads they'd change the original thread title from the very specific "Florida Alligator Spotted With Dead Body In Its Mouth" to something more general like "Recent Florida Alligator Incidents" to avoid confusion.
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