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Old 03-22-2020, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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Misconceptions about what can protect you are becoming just as contagious as the virus.
There is no evidence that supplements like zinc, green tea and echinacea are beneficial to prevent coronavirus, said Dr. Mark J. Mulligan, M.D., division director of the infectious diseases and vaccine center at NYU Langone Medical Center. “I do not recommend spending money on supplements for this purpose.”

https://www.nytimes.com/article/coronavirus-myths.html
Green tea is pretty darn cheap and has other health benefits. There's really no harm, of all the things to be concerned about right now.
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Old 03-22-2020, 08:39 PM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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Misconceptions about what can protect you are becoming just as contagious as the virus.
There is no evidence that supplements like zinc, green tea and echinacea are beneficial to prevent coronavirus, said Dr. Mark J. Mulligan, M.D., division director of the infectious diseases and vaccine center at NYU Langone Medical Center. “I do not recommend spending money on supplements for this purpose.”

https://www.nytimes.com/article/coronavirus-myths.html
I'd still like to see more opinions on this. I've seen a few articles about the benefits of zinc combined with tea, coffee, or chocolate, although the topic of the article was preventing aging. However, it's mainly the elderly who die of this and it's known that the elderly are usually deficient in zinc. Many elderly people lose their sense of taste and smell due to zinc deficiency--that's fairly well known. Has this idea of green tea (or black tea? chocolate? coffee?) and zinc really been debunked?
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Old 03-22-2020, 08:42 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Misconceptions about what can protect you are becoming just as contagious as the virus.
There is no evidence that supplements like zinc, green tea and echinacea are beneficial to prevent coronavirus, said Dr. Mark J. Mulligan, M.D., division director of the infectious diseases and vaccine center at NYU Langone Medical Center. “I do not recommend spending money on supplements for this purpose.”

https://www.nytimes.com/article/coronavirus-myths.html
Because these doctors have affiliation with big pharma they don't want people to buy natural remedies and cheap remedies like Chloroquine. You see how the Anthony Fauci on on TV and hesitant about Chloroquiine?

He knows Chloroquine is a zinc ionosphore but because it is widely available and cheap. He doesn't recommend it as he has ties to big pharma along with Trump. Meanwhile NY Gov Cuomo, has ordered 70,000 Doses of Hydroxychloroquine, 10,000 doses of Zithromax and 750,000 Doses of Chloroquine. https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/ami...engineers-four

This anti-malaria drug is cheap. And big pharma hates it because they are getting ready for their big-time vaccine that will cost an arm and leg while Chloroquine is dirt cheap. Tell your Doc to prescribe it to you as you have lyme disease and it is less than $30/bottle.
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Old 03-22-2020, 08:47 PM
 
Location: SLC
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I had not heard this symptom of covid 19 before. Loss of smell and/or taste may signal covid-19 infection:

https://www.sciencealert.com/mild-co...smell-or-taste
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Old 03-22-2020, 08:50 PM
 
Location: NYC
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I'd still like to see more opinions on this. I've seen a few articles about the benefits of zinc combined with tea, coffee, or chocolate, although the topic of the article was preventing aging. However, it's mainly the elderly who die of this and it's known that the elderly are usually deficient in zinc. Many elderly people lose their sense of taste and smell due to zinc deficiency--that's fairly well known. Has this idea of green tea (or black tea? chocolate? coffee?) and zinc really been debunked?



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This is it, Dr. talks and mentions EGCG from green teas and quertin as possible remedies along with Chloroquine.

I drink green teas very often, so I would definitely encourage people to drink green teas regularly, up your vitamin C dosage, and pickup some Quertin pills they are dirt cheap too and you can also get them from kale, onions, peppers, etc. The video has footages that have shown that when combined they can inhibit influenza from spreading and have the nearly the same amount of zinc ionophores as Chloroquine.
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Old 03-22-2020, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Because these doctors have affiliation with big pharma they don't want people to buy natural remedies and cheap remedies like Chloroquine. You see how the Anthony Fauci on on TV and hesitant about Chloroquiine?

He knows Chloroquine is a zinc ionosphore but because it is widely available and cheap. He doesn't recommend it as he has ties to big pharma along with Trump. Meanwhile NY Gov Cuomo, has ordered 70,000 Doses of Hydroxychloroquine, 10,000 doses of Zithromax and 750,000 Doses of Chloroquine. https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/ami...engineers-four

This anti-malaria drug is cheap. And big pharma hates it because they are getting ready for their big-time vaccine that will cost an arm and leg while Chloroquine is dirt cheap. Tell you Doc to prescribe it to you as you have lyme disease and it is less than $30/bottle.
The drugs ordered are for use in scientific studies. I do not understand why more chloroquine has been ordered. Hydroxychloroquine has a better safety profile.

The way hydroxychloroquine inhibits SARS-CoV-2 has nothing to do with zinc.

It is "Big Pharma" that developed and sells hydroxychloroquine.

It is better to prevent a disease than to have to treat it. That is why the interest in vaccines.
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Old 03-22-2020, 09:00 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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New information here. Sudden loss of smell may be a symptom.

https://www.businessinsider.com/coro...yposmia-2020-3
In South Korea, China, and Italy, about a third of patients who have tested positive for COVID-19 have also reported a loss of smell — known as anosmia or hyposmia — leading ear, nose, and throat experts in the UK have reported.
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Old 03-22-2020, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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The way hydroxychloroquine inhibits SARS-CoV-2 has nothing to do with zinc.
It's believed it works by allowing zinc permutation.
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Old 03-22-2020, 09:57 PM
 
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Dr. Hotez infectious disease specialist, apparently designed a vaccine against SARS (a coronavirus) a decade ago. Like the RSV vaccine, it apparently caused a worse reaction, rather than being protective. From a NYT article today:

"One candidate coronavirus vaccine Dr. Hotez invented 10 years ago in the wake of SARS, he said, had to be abandoned when it appeared to make mice more likely to die from pneumonia when they were experimentally infected with the virus."

This is a known problem, and the reason why we do NOT have an RSV vaccine to this day. Immunizing the individual against the virus just seems to cause a more dangerous immune overreaction in the lungs, causing severe pneumonia. This is bad, Dory! We have not yet been able to come up with an RSV vaccine, but instead have to give vulnerable infants antibody shots monthly through the RSV season.

This makes me very discouraged about the likelihood of effective immunization against the coronavirus even being possible.
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Old 03-22-2020, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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Dr. Hotez infectious disease specialist, apparently designed a vaccine against SARS (a coronavirus) a decade ago. Like the RSV vaccine, it apparently caused a worse reaction, rather than being protective. From a NYT article today:

"One candidate coronavirus vaccine Dr. Hotez invented 10 years ago in the wake of SARS, he said, had to be abandoned when it appeared to make mice more likely to die from pneumonia when they were experimentally infected with the virus."

This is a known problem, and the reason why we do NOT have an RSV vaccine to this day. Immunizing the individual against the virus just seems to cause a more dangerous immune overreaction in the lungs, causing severe pneumonia. This is bad, Dory! We have not yet been able to come up with an RSV vaccine, but instead have to give vulnerable infants antibody shots monthly through the RSV season.

This makes me very discouraged about the likelihood of effective immunization against the coronavirus even being possible.
Given how this thing spreads like wildfire (hearing stories of one person infecting dozens), we will have herd immunity before a vaccine can be approved anyway.
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