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Old 06-01-2012, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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My mom had stories about houses in poorer parts of east Dayton being subdivided into crappy cheap sleeping rooms after WWII, to accommodate migrating factory workers. That was probably the start of the whole underclass culture thing with local hillbillies.
I understand the Appalachian migration was from around WW2 to the 60's 70's eras, roughly.
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Old 06-01-2012, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Covington, KY
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And the other half of that tag line "Originals Wanted" is a mockery. For me, growing up in Dayton and then returning years later to find work was a process of being smashed down and excluded for being too creative or not conforming. "Originals wanted" my azz, Dayton's social culture when I grew up there in the 60s and 70s could be summed up as = watch your mouth and shut the hell up and stay in line. Dayton has NEVER in the last 50 years been a good place for individuality or non comformity.
The tale I heard was that What's-his-name Watson who founded IBM worked for NCR and couldn't convince John H. Patterson to start converting typewriters to electricity....

If true, what you say is not new, so don't feel so bad.
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Old 06-01-2012, 10:59 AM
 
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A photo blog called "The real Dayton, Ohio" shows the nature of the East Side quite clearly. Again, the stereotypes did not come from nowhere.
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Old 06-01-2012, 11:01 AM
 
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i understand the appalachian migration was from around WW2 to the 60's 70's eras, roughly.
For WW2.
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Old 06-01-2012, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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A photo blog called "The real Dayton, Ohio" shows the nature of the East Side quite clearly. Again, the stereotypes did not come from nowhere.

Photos from the streets of Dayton, Ohio USA

courtesy of Drexel Dave.
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Old 06-01-2012, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Covington, KY
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A photo blog called "The real Dayton, Ohio" shows the nature of the East Side quite clearly. Again, the stereotypes did not come from nowhere.
He posted as much from west and north. And, he did an excellent job. But, that's more recent Dayton and his point was, "this is being ignored." North especially had no real hillbilly heritage. Not black, either.
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Old 06-01-2012, 11:09 AM
 
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Dig around in it a little, and you should find a few comments from me.
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Old 06-01-2012, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Covington, KY
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Ok, for all your pontification, I doubt you have been to Dayton recently. If not, I would love to drive you down McClain Street from Henry to Hamilton so you can see for yourself the glory of one of East Dayton's worst Appalachain ghettos. And that is one of many, I might add.

The only remaining traces of Eastern European culture on Dayton is found in Old North Dayton. Amber Rose (great restaurant I might add), Charlie's Imports, a few social clubs, etc. are all that's visible anymore. Otherwise, OND is rough as h3ll and getting worse every day.
It's spelled McLain. My uncle married to my hillbilly aunt owned a house there once.

That's culture visible on the street. Look through the names in the telephone book.
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Old 06-01-2012, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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That's culture visible on the street.
Oh, there's plenty of "culture" visible on those streets. Especially sneakers draped over power lines.
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Old 06-01-2012, 11:34 AM
 
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@ Joe, I used to live in Linden Heights, right off of Xenia Ave at Bowen Street. LH is a nice area. Take a walk into Twin Towers and it's like a totally different world. Same with walking over to Historic Inner East. But then you have St. Anne's Hill which is a really cool area.

@MOKAN - As for Hispanics. There have been some hispanic folks moving into East Dayton over the years but it's hardly as you describe in Kansas City.

I live in Linden Heights and the TT neighborhood is exactly what I am talking about!
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