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The studies drove to an extreme on purpose. They did not stay on 800 calories and zero carbs for long.
I would never recommend 800 calories and zero carb diet. No one says that is the way people should eat long term, including the study you are referring too. However, there are people on 1000 calories a day and near zero carb. I totally agree with you, more calories is better.
Consider your metabolism after weight loss. A way of eating if you will, as opposed to a "diet". There is a difference with low carb, you will have a lower temperature and reduced T3.
Do a web search for "low carb diet causes hypothyroidism". There is a lot of reading available to you.
Low body temperature is a low cost, easily available method to assess hypothyroidism. You can then continue with all the other blood work if your temperature is low.
Edit: there are studies where people fast. It does not mean people fast forever.
Momma_bear, I would love to add in more veggies and use the net carbs. It just does not work for me. Until I dropped to 5 carbs a day and below I was constantly losing the same three pounds over and over and over. So sad to think 3 OZ of broccoli would put weight back on. But for me it does. I think I abused carbs so badly I am over sensitive to them. I am happy it will work for you. As said above when I do get to goal I will add more veggies=up the carb ladder a wee bit until the weight starts coming back . Then I will know when I have reached my critical carb level and will back down until there is no more gain and call it maintenance.
The doctors and nurses AND nutritionist , who take care of my hubby, watched my weight go out of control , high, then come back into control, lower, for the last three years. Knowing I am doing very low carb they are all for it. All of them. Then my own PCP is happy too. He said it is the best thing I can do for me. Yes my LDL went up a bit but my triglycerides are half what they were and HDL is twice what it was and my metabolic ratio has come down almost to normal range.
I eat up to 1000 calories on hungry or less. I do not log my foods until the day of eating is done so I do not restrict. Being very low carb curbs my desire for food. I was never a breakfast person and since I am not hungry I usually skip it and have my coffee with 2 TSP Heavy whipping cream and call it good. I eat lunch at 2PM and dinner at 7 and I am done for the day except for drinking iced or hot tea. I usually go along with three or four not hungry days and then one day I am really hungry and I never restrict low carb foods on that hungry day. The pattern has been I will usually drop a pound every 5 to 8 days. It all seems very slow but I look back and am very happy with how far I have come.
Everyone has different reactions to their diet. It seems that your metabolism was damaged at some point. I have the same experience with regard to appetite. Low carb controls my appetite much more than any other way of eating.
A classic symptom of poor thyroid function is being too cold.
Lets say someone follows low carb and their temperatures are normal. They are good to go. Lets say someone else has a significant drop in temperature. They might be concerned.
Graywhiskers has already conclusively shown that he neither understands metabolism nor has the reading comprehension skills to even be taken seriously in discussion. I highly doubt anyone here is giving credibility to his statements.
Graywhiskers has already conclusively shown that he neither understands metabolism nor has the reading comprehension skills to even be taken seriously in discussion. I highly doubt anyone here is giving credibility to his statements.
If I want advice about my diet regarding my Hashimotos I will refer to my endocrinologist, not some internet hack.
You say you believe that a wide range of diets can provide good health, yet you post studies that are ridiculous (800 calories and ZERO g of carbs) as proof that low carb is unhealthy. No carb and low carb are not the same thing. 800 calories is almost starvation.
I know, right? It's like saying water is bad for you because you can flush your body of nutrients when you drink 12 gallons of water a day.
Graywhiskers has already conclusively shown that he neither understands metabolism nor has the reading comprehension skills to even be taken seriously in discussion. I highly doubt anyone here is giving credibility to his statements.
You are only capable of making gratuitous insults. You can't just stay out of it, even after you say you will.
I am not the one spouting off about body temperature, thyroid, low carb eating, etc... That would be you. Do you have an MD after your name? Or you just a pseudo doctor/expert?
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