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Wouldn't matter. They just crushed you. A couple of middle schoolers did half an hour's worth of googling and they ended up knowing more about NAFTA than you do. Be proud.
Who in the world would give a fig about such a thing? I'll tell you who. Someone who is desperately trying to tun away from all the actually relevant points that have been decisively won by some other person who knows much more about the actual situation than he does.
Wow. Did they teach you the "desperate ranting insult" technique in shill school? Probably, but I bet you were a natural.
Sure we don't care about what has happened to manufacturing/GDP or our rank vs other countries on that score... because why, exactly?
The US is by far the largest developed country in the world. Because of that we are leaders in a lot of gross numbers. And it tells us pretty much nothing without context, and how we compare to other countries on a per capita or per GDP basis.
What do you mean? I included some of the noteworthy countries ahead of the US.
Because it makes Puerto Rico, who is at the top, look like a America in the post war boom. Furthermore, while some of the noteworthy countries you selected belong to be mentioned alongside the US (China, Germany, and Japan), others different really offer any insight (Italy, Austria, Sweden, Belarus, Czech).
Wow. Did they teach you the "desperate ranting insult" technique in shill school? Probably, but I bet you were a natural.
Sure we don't care about what has happened to manufacturing/GDP or our rank vs other countries on that score... because why, exactly?
The US is by far the largest developed country in the world. Because of that we are leaders in a lot of gross numbers. And it tells us pretty much nothing without context, and how we compare to other countries on a per capita or per GDP basis.
And China has over a billion citizens and the largest value of manufacturing. The US does close to the same dollar amount of manufacturing with 320 million citizens. How does Ireland, the Czechs, and Austria (higher than the US on your list) compare?
It will be interesting to see what the US looks like last year and these upcoming years as we are becoming a very big exporter of oil, gas, and their byproducts. Natural gas looks especially promising, personally looking into an index fund.
Mr Moniz said four LNG export terminals are under construction and the first wave of shipments may begin before the end of this year or in early 2016 at the latest.
“Certainly in this decade, there’s a good chance that we will be LNG exporters on the scale of Qatar, which is today’s largest LNG exporter,†he said, speaking on the margins of the IHS CERAWeek energy summit in Texas.
Wouldn't matter. They just crushed you. A couple of middle schoolers did half an hour's worth of googling and they ended up knowing more about NAFTA than you do. Be proud.
Wow. Did they teach you the "desperate ranting insult" technique in shill school? Probably, but I bet you were a natural.
Manufacturing output has soared since the mid-1990s, while at the same time, manufacturing employment has fallen. It's been the same here, there, and everywhere. I'm sorry that you find the reality of the world so distressing. Maybe if you'd paid more attention, these things wouldn't come a such a surprise to you.
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Sure we don't care about what has happened to manufacturing/GDP or our rank vs other countries on that score... because why, exactly?
Because it doesn't freaking matter. It's a doofus meaningless concept that you dragged in out of the rain after being stomped to death on all the measures that actually make any sense. We should have constrained growth in other sectors of the economy just to protect the share owing to manufaturing? What a hopelessly ridiculous concept!
US could never manufacture on the scale it did during WW2. We are a shell of our former glory. China can whip together a workforce in a day, complete with high skill labor and competent expertise while America tries to untangle it's debilitating red tape.
China used to be all about cheap junk. Now they make just about anything that America makes, with the same level of quality, and at a more affordable price. Buying Made in America these days is not what it used to be. We used to be about quality. Now the fixation is price, even at the expense of quality. Typical of when the bean counters achieve control.
So basically, we have to pass the bill to see what's inside? Ya, we've seen this before too...
People are not as stupid as you have poorly attempted to make them out to be. Well, not the people you're trying to belittle anyways.
It's true China can manufacture on large scales due to their massive work force. But I disagree about quality. Much of what is made there is still poor quality. There are top quality things built there for sure, but those are under strict control by the foreign companies having those items built there (such as Apple, Sony, etc.) Items made there by Chinese companies under their own control are still poor quality. It's why Chinese themselves (I know because my wife is from there, all of her friends and family still live back there) much prefer to buy foreign brands instead of actual Chinese brands of almost any type of item. Even edible items such as baby formula, they don't trust Chinese brands due to quality issues- so they pay more if they can afford it for foreign brands. (for example, if they come here to the US to visit, they buy it here and take as much back home with them as they can)
Also, not much true innovation is coming out of China. They are good at taking existing blueprints and building something cheaply. They are not good at coming up with a new concept, inventing a new product or a new design of a product. My wife's family often talks about that being a serious negative aspect of their society not just now but for a long time, really ever since the ancient times when they were innovative. Maybe in the coming decades as the country continues to develop that could change, though.
Manufacturing output has soared since the mid-1990s, while at the same time, manufacturing employment has fallen.
Show me the "soaring" please.
What are the measures that "actually make sense"?
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