Johnson's path to become POTUS. (American, abortion, political, parties)
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You're spewing the same rhetoric that is spewed every general election - yet here we are, Trump vs Sec Clinton and most people are talking about which poison to take in this general election. Sec. Clinton will win in November - given the current political landscape and the fact that the GOP is eventually going to nominate Trump...which the vast majority of liberals despise and a solid core of the GOP base as well. People need to get outside of their tiny box and look ahead and think about the future, vs settling for the "lesser of two evils/a vote for * is a vote for *" garbage.
It is because there is no other option. Third parties existed since the 1800's and most fail to get electoral votes or a meaningful share of the votes. The Reform Party got 10% of the vote in 1996 but yet hasn't been relevant since so this funding Val Hallah of 5% means dick if it can't be sustained.
As for the bold, while you claim it is garbage, you do agree with me that most people do it anyway. It maybe silly but I as I mentioned before, I don't see a better fix.
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Originally Posted by NewGuy2016
I agree - the majority of people subliminally see the general election as a super bowl and want to be rooting for the winning team.
I don't find it subliminal, it is just they don't get anywhere. If it wasn't for an RTAmerica, I would only see Gary Johnson in 2012 ads. The Libertarian Party needs better organization for the state levels, let alone the national level. It just can't get out the vote. Perhaps that is because libertarians aren't identifying as members of the Libertarian Party, not enough people hear the ideals or perhaps they do but prove themselves to be socially liberal extremist fiscal conservatives.
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Originally Posted by snowtired14
But voting for the candidates that are handed to you isn't a democracy, you really do have a choice even though the powers that be can subvert it. Why take the lesser of two evils when you could possibly get a candidate who'll work for you.
Because nobody else votes for them. Even though I don't agree with the logic, this is why people talk about the stay at home vote. You stay stay at home and don't vote because you know neither candidate is worth it and either aren't aware of third parties or realize that voting third parties are a waste. If this was anyone else other than Cruz against HRC, I might consider that but the stakes are too high. Arizona gives some 11 votes, perhaps that is the only difference this time around, who knows.
Because nobody else votes for them. Even though I don't agree with the logic, this is why people talk about the stay at home vote. You stay stay at home and don't vote because you know neither candidate is worth it and either aren't aware of third parties or realize that voting third parties are a waste. If this was anyone else other than Cruz against HRC, I might consider that but the stakes are too high. Arizona gives some 11 votes, perhaps that is the only difference this time around, who knows.
"The tyranny of a prince in an oligarchy is not so dangerous to the public welfare as the apathy of a citizen in a democracy." Charles de Montesquieu
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Republican Liz Mair— said her initial reaction to conservatives pushing an independent candidate was that "they were f...ing nuts".
Now she has become increasingly convinced that it might be a plausible way to help keep Trump from dragging down Republican candidates for other offices in November. "I do think that option overall is a lot more viable than people are giving it credit for," she says.
Actually, if you think about it, Trump probably appeals to Libertarians more so than Hillary, so an undecided voter may vote for a RINO like Trump. You know it's going to be close and if he can win some of those LP votes, who knows?
Actually, if you think about it, Trump probably appeals to Libertarians more so than Hillary, so an undecided voter may vote for a RINO like Trump. You know it's going to be close and if he can win some of those LP votes, who knows?
I don't know to many libertarians rushing to vote for Trump...much less Sec Clinton.
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Very funny!
