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Old 08-28-2008, 04:54 AM
 
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African Americans?????? Do you mean Americans that HAPPEN to be black or Americans actually BORN in Africa? The hyphenated BS needs to go if we're ever going to unify.
Well said.

I don't call myself a White-American or Anglo-American. I am simply an American.
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Old 08-28-2008, 08:05 AM
 
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Impressive candidate? I guess a Greek temple is pretty impressive. As far as great leader: Hitler was also a great leader in that he managed to brainwash millions of Germans into carrying out his twisted philosophy - so in that aspect I guess Obama could be called a great leader. Is he great in the sense of running this country in a competent manner? All signs point to no.
Ohhhh please. I don't think you should be bringing up Hitler given the fact that if ANYONE could be considered remotely similar to him it's BUSH. Let's talk about fanatical, war-obsessed leaders. Let's talk about leaders who spew nothing but lies to the public. Let's talk about propaganda. let's talk about an administration having the power to indefinitely detain people for no reason.

And before anyone screams at me for this post, I didn't bring up Hitler and I think it's quite a stretch to say any of our leaders are like him. BUT if you HAD to draw a comparison, Bush is a hell of a lot closer than Obama could EVER be.
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Old 08-28-2008, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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Ohhhh please. I don't think you should be bringing up Hitler given the fact that if ANYONE could be considered remotely similar to him it's BUSH. Let's talk about fanatical, war-obsessed leaders. Let's talk about leaders who spew nothing but lies to the public. Let's talk about propaganda. let's talk about an administration having the power to indefinitely detain people for no reason.

And before anyone screams at me for this post, I didn't bring up Hitler and I think it's quite a stretch to say any of our leaders are like him. BUT if you HAD to draw a comparison, Bush is a hell of a lot closer than Obama could EVER be.

Why would Bush be close to Hitler. Not even, Hitler never asked permission to go into another country, Bush asked both the country and the congress. Hitler killed all prisoners (inocent ones), Bush wont even prosecute the terrorists he has a guantonomo. Come on, Barack kills innocent babies daily. Not saying he is Hitler, I would not want to give hime that much credit, even though he would probably like that.
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Old 08-28-2008, 08:24 AM
 
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Why would Bush be close to Hitler. Not even, Hitler never asked permission to go into another country, Bush asked both the country and the congress. Hitler killed all prisoners (inocent ones), Bush wont even prosecute the terrorists he has a guantonomo. Come on, Barack kills innocent babies daily. Not saying he is Hitler, I would not want to give hime that much credit, even though he would probably like that.
Ohhh so sad. I guess you weren't able to understand what I wrote.
Sure, Bush asked the country and congress based - on false evidence. And you're right! He won't prosecute the so-called enemy combatants (there is no proof that they are confirmed "terrorists",) he'll just have them tortured. Obama does not kill innocent babies daily - that is an idiotic statement. It's SOO discouraging that all these people believe that piece of smear. Why don't you go and actually read his position before you go around spreading lies.
So saying someone "is Hitler" would be a form of giving them credit? wow. sick.
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Old 08-28-2008, 08:25 AM
 
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Oh come on, why does everyone have to always get offended. You are getting emotional now, just lke was said.
I most certainly am not emotional in any way right now. But good try. I am simply stating that I find his generalization offensive. And I bet I'm not the only one.
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Old 08-28-2008, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Limestone,TN/Bucerias, Mexico
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But why did they have to pull this stunt on stopping the roll call? It made it look too staged and kind of cheapened it. Why bring delegates to the convention if you won't let them do what they were hired to do? It wouldn't have changed the outcome, Obama would still be the nominee.
First they don't count Fl and MI, then they do with fractional votes. Then they stop the roll call.
What a weird primary season and convention.
The dye had already been cast and it was Hillary, herself who stopped the roll call with her gracious request for nomination by acclamation. There was electricity in the hall at that moment as Democrats came together united.
I hope Obama considers asking her to be his Secretary of State - either her or Bill, both of whom are very well-respected in the world. That would be a nice change not to feel alienated from the rest of the world's population.
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Old 08-28-2008, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Lakes & Mountains of East TN
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It's only a half of a historic moment because only the black half of his nomination is remarkable.

The white half is "same old same old" right?

God forbid it should be excitement based on his beneficial policies and his impressive record.

Oh, but wait. Those don't exist.

People who vote for Obama solely because he's "black" ("because America is ready for a black president") are just as racist as those who vote for McCain solely because he's white.
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Old 08-28-2008, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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Ohhh so sad. I guess you weren't able to understand what I wrote.
Sure, Bush asked the country and congress based - on false evidence. And you're right! He won't prosecute the so-called enemy combatants (there is no proof that they are confirmed "terrorists",) he'll just have them tortured. Obama does not kill innocent babies daily - that is an idiotic statement. It's SOO discouraging that all these people believe that piece of smear. Why don't you go and actually read his position before you go around spreading lies.
So saying someone "is Hitler" would be a form of giving them credit? wow. sick.

What false evidence, my brother is in Iraq and they are moving chemical weapons out of there daily. Oh and the poor sweet little terrorists getting a little water in thier face, they have lawyers they are fine. Read again Barack finally admitted that it was true, plus anyone who believes in abortion is a baby killer, that is closer to Hitler than Bush and I dont even care for bush. You obviously did not understand, I was saying Barack aspires to be a socialist and a god, like Hitler did, so it would be credit for him. I am not worried about "all mighty Barack" being president, cause as people have been finding out about this creep, his polls have been plumeting.
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Old 08-28-2008, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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The dye had already been cast and it was Hillary, herself who stopped the roll call with her gracious request for nomination by acclamation. There was electricity in the hall at that moment as Democrats came together united.
I hope Obama considers asking her to be his Secretary of State - either her or Bill, both of whom are very well-respected in the world. That would be a nice change not to feel alienated from the rest of the world's population.

Yes because that is how America was created, by accepting the applause of socialist nations. Come on quite thinking its cool for America to bend over and grab their ankles for other nations that have no moral.
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Old 08-28-2008, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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It's only a half of a historic moment because only the black half of his nomination is remarkable.

The white half is "same old same old" right?

God forbid it should be excitement based on his beneficial policies and his impressive record.

Oh, but wait. Those don't exist.

People who vote for Obama solely because he's "black" ("because America is ready for a black president") are just as racist as those who vote for McCain solely because he's white.

SOOOO true.
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