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We feel the same way about Obama. The difference is you believe in Obama the way Republicans believe in Bush. Why are you correct compared to the Bush supporters? What makes your position more valid? I see Obama's election as an emotional victory as opposed to a logical decision based purely on Obama's experience.
I have seen more damage in 100 days of Obama than in eight years of Bush. Trust me, I was dissapointed in Bush. I'd still take him over Obama any day!
The DAMAGE was ALREADY in place.
You are confusing a painful cure with the original disease.
We feel the same way about Obama. The difference is you believe in Obama the way Republicans believe in Bush. Why are you correct compared to the Bush supporters? What makes your position more valid?
Well, strangely, you immediately answer your own question:
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Originally Posted by GOPATTA2D
I have seen more damage in 100 days of Obama than in eight years of Bush. Trust me, I was dissapointed in Bush. I'd still take him over Obama any day!
Based on your own response, the position of an Obama supporter is more valid based on the flawed beliefs of the Republican Bush supporter. They are most often ideologically driven, with little use for facts or serious, investigative research into very complex problems, the same ones Bush ignored and delegated to someone down the White House supply chain, effectively shirking responsibility.
And for the record, the Bush Yale degree, along with his certificate from Harvard, were the result of him being a legacy student. It happens all the time, the rich take of their own based on their last name and family connections
Many people mistakenly equate intelligence with strong leadership. What is it about education makes an individual a strong leader or innovator? Why is it that new innovations always seem to come from some uneducated farmer or factory worker and not the first in the class at an Ivy League school?
The fact is, most people do not want someone who is 'infinitely smarter' than the other guy, they want someone they can relate to, someone experienced enough at life to know what is best for the people. That sort of thing can only be experienced, not taught in a classroom.
Many people do elect a leader based on how they can relate to them, a true 'man of the people' who they expect will project the views of the common man and politics on the nation at large. That almost never happens, but people like to relate to their leader more than they want to see them gloat about how much smarter they are than everyone else, or tell them how to live their lives.
To cut this a bit short, the point of the whole thing is intelligence does not equate to strong leadership. You tread dangerous waters when you openly believe that it does.. Like honest Abe said, "You can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time"..
So how did that strategy work out for you?
Was Bush a President America can be proud of?
One who did a good job and left the country better off than he found it?
Ohhh - another mindless, reflexive response against all things liberal..
He did post facts - that you ingored them is not his fault...
He said that Bush scared us into believing that Iraq was obtaining nuclear weapons. and that is a fact...
Bush explicitly warned us over and over that Saddam was working to build nukes. He implicitly warned us that Al Queda would get them by painting a picture of cooperation between Saddam and Al Queda...
Ohhh - don't you just hate those pesky 'facts' that you don't like which shoot down your position - and then you demand that people dig up more facts???
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Here is a fact GW was elected to his first term before 9/11 so his supporters must have heard something other than fear.
Only if the kid didn't earn the grades they received - which sure seems to be the case with GW (considering the ignorance and stupidity he's exhibited).
Ken
Obama stated there was 57 states. I could post many other stupid misstatements. Did somebody buy his way through college since he has exhibited such ignorance and stupidity?
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Obama stated their was 57 states. I could post many other stupid misstatements. Did somebody buy his way through college since he has exhibited such ignorance and stupidity?
Yeah right, Obama REALLY believes that he had visited 57 states instead of the 47 he visited and meant to say.
If you REALLY believe that then clearly someone bought YOUR way through school (assuming you even went).
The fact is - on a brutal seemingly endless campaign trail EVERY candidate misspeaks from time to time. Obama did it, McCain did it, and Bush did it A LOT.
The difference is Bush did it on a regular basis - even after the campaign was over and he was already President - and it wasn't just simple mistakes in wording. It was often boneheadedly stupid comments such as calling upon a new Crusade against Arab terrorism in complete ignorance of what our Muslim allies and friends think of the horrific events of the Crusades - folks that we needed to convince that we were not just out to seize their oil and their land and that we were truly fighting against Muslim extremists and not just Muslims IN GENERAL.
The fact is, Bush was woefully ignorant of basic history of the Middle-East (as well as a whole load of other subjects - including apparently basic English) and that ignorance and stupidity showed all too well in his decisions.
The fact is, Bush was woefully ignorant of basic history of the Middle-East (as well as a whole load of other subjects - including apparently basic English) and that ignorance and stupidity showed all too well in his decisions.
Ken
Many people are. How many people off the street are going to know that Iraq almost defected to the Axis during WWII or that Iran used to be an ally of the US? How many people actually know that you reap what you sow, and in our case British imperialism and American intervention almost 70 years ago is the root Iran's hatred of the West?
If you took away fear, none of them would have listened. But when they were warned that Saddam had nuclear weapons, that Al Qaeda was hiding behind every bush, that we had to torture people to remain safe, the herd listened and obeyed
"they were warned that Saddam had nuclear weapons"
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