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Originally Posted by slowlane3
Quite a few Jewish people Anglicized their original surnames, for example
Horwitz, Herschel, Herzl = Harris or Howard
Levy, Levin, Levine = Lewis
? = Gordon
Cohen or Cohn = Cowan
Rabinowitz = Robbins
Morgenstern = Morningstar
Goldberg, Goldstein = Gould
Bernstein = Burns
Greenberg, Greenspan = Green
Koch = Cook
Davidovich = Davis
This was especially true of actors and comedians.
Also in the N.Y. City area, almost anyone with an English-sounding name (that you haven't seen in person) is assumed to be Black (or else Irish), as VERY few metropolitan N.Y.ers are of British ancestry.
I've noticed this. Why is this?
Lou Reed's birth name was Rabinowitz (in this case his parents changed their names). Bob Dylan's was Zimmerman but of course they are nothing like the original names.
'Inter' anything is all relative to social norms and prevailing attitudes of the time. Back in the 1800s for an Irish person to marry an English person was worse than white marrying a black today.
Was worse than marrying a black today? What a comment as if there is something wrong with that. What century are you living in?
Was worse than marrying a black today? What a comment as if there is something wrong with that. What century are you living in?
Worse in the sense of more controversial. And for sure there are PLENTY of Americans who do not like the idea of interracial marriages. What century are you living in?
Lou Reed's birth name was Rabinowitz (in this case his parents changed their names). Bob Dylan's was Zimmerman but of course they are nothing like the original names.
NYC got the heaviest "white" immigration in the mid 19th to early 20th century (with a bit afterwards as well) in the country. So, the percentage of British descent got diluted more than elsewhere, so the probability of British last names with a British descent is low. Most of the (white) people in the metro area are people who moved from the city, so the same pattern applies.
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Worse in the sense of more controversial. And for sure there are PLENTY of Americans who do not like the idea of interracial marriages. What century are you living in?
What he said...but I personally am not against IR. Many are privately against it but won't shout it to the rooftops.
Yes just Boston, not as British as you would expect given its history
Virginia has just as old historic British colonies (Jamestown). The New England states are no more or less British than the Atlantic Canadian provinces.
Yes Americans are more mutt.. simple explanation, at least when compared with Australia:
1. Its been around a lot longer and has had more immigration from many countries earlier.
2. Australia's white population has been primary Ango-Celtic, at least until right after WW2, when you had the southern Europe migration, so these are relatively new immigrants.
This is what many people end up finding out when they do the research. A friend of mine used to always say he was of German Jewish heritage. When he did the actual digging he found out his distance relatives were mostly Russian.
A lot of that had to do with the port from which the family departed.
Bremen Germany, was a popular port for immigrants from East-Central Europe. So many people became "German" when entering the US. For example people from Poland.
Because of restrictive and racist, immigration laws, leaving from Germany was advantageous.
NYC got the heaviest "white" immigration in the mid 19th to early 20th century (with a bit afterwards as well) in the country. So, the percentage of British descent got diluted more than elsewhere, so the probability of British last names with a British descent is low. Most of the (white) people in the metro area are people who moved from the city, so the same pattern applies.
Why is "white" in quotation marks?
This thread STINKS of racism.
So much of the Holocaust would not have happened if we did not have quotas on Eastern and Southern Europeans. But we did.
Oh and that Holocaust? It's like...NOT UP FOR DEBATE. I have met personally 20 or more people who were victims of it.
And a thread like this? It makes me think that Americans haven't changed much since then....
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