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Old 11-02-2015, 05:01 PM
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This is the MDLP K13 Ultimate results of one of my Ashkenazi matches on Gedmatch.

MDLP K13 'Ultimate' Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 ENF 33.23
2 Caucas-Gedrosia 25.99
3 ANE 14.17
4 NearEast 13.46
5 WHG-UHG 8.73
6 Subsaharian 3.18
7 ASI 1.02


This one is mine for comparison.

MDLP K13 'Ultimate' Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 ENF 44.93
2 WHG-UHG 18.04
3 Caucas-Gedrosia 13.79
4 ANE 11.52
5 NearEast 8.35
6 Subsaharian 2.29
7 Paleo-African 1.08
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Old 11-02-2015, 05:13 PM
 
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I suspect Sicilians would score identical to that Ashkenazi. But of the ones I have personally seen, their SSA is between 1-1.5%. Either way, it is so ancient.

You are fully Portuguese and score 1/3 of the SSA I score. And I also score more than any Ashkenazi, Sicilian, Greek or Portuguese on my list except for one, who is part Madeiran (half).

Here is mine. Full ancestry is 37.5% Sicily (+ Greek and Arbereshe), 12.5% Sardinia, 25% Poland, 6.25% Cape Verde and the rest Madeira.

# Population Percent
1 ENF 42.44
2 WHG-UHG 18.41
3 Caucas-Gedrosia 16.38
4 ANE 14.36
5 NearEast 5.34
6 Subsaharian 3.07
7 Paleo-African 0.01
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Old 11-02-2015, 05:29 PM
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Your results aren't picking up Paleo-African .01 is noise on the other hand my results consistently pick up small amounts of pygymy. I did mention that when the rare SNP utility was up and running on Gedmatch I consistently had rare SNP matches with people with origins in Cameroon the agriculturalists from that region absorbed pygymy maternal lineages.
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Old 11-02-2015, 05:37 PM
 
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My lack of Paleoafrican probably implies my mom's Khoisan score on DNA Tribes is probably something misread from an Angolan Bantu group. Khoisan and Pygmy people would be the ones really scoring that Paleoafrican.
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Old 11-02-2015, 05:43 PM
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My lack of Paleoafrican probably implies my mom's Khoisan score on DNA Tribes is probably something misread from an Angolan Bantu group. Khoisan and Pygmy people would be the ones really scoring that Paleoafrican.
I think so.
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Old 11-02-2015, 05:58 PM
 
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I think so.
And what is interesting is, it is not called Paleoafrican for nothing. Those genes are right at the roots of the evolutionary tree.
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Old 11-02-2015, 06:59 PM
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More upper Guinean I would say. Then I would guess southern Nigeria/Cameroon via Sao Tome. The East African I think comes from an earlier period from various sources including the Arabian slave trade, and a small amount from the Sephardic Jews that converted to Christianity and were absorbed into the gene pool. Three to Five percent sub-Saharan African admixture is found in all Jewish populations of the middle East/Europe/North Africa.

Flemish surnames are quite common my genealogical records are filled with them.

Bettencourt is quite common in parts of the Azores it's French a descendant of Maciot de Bethancourt from the Canary islands to Madeira island than the Azores but there are lines not descended from him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_de_B%C3%A9thencourt

Drumonde or Ormonde is Scottish it comes from Drummond.

Dutra is Flemish from De Utre from the city of Utrecht(flemish)

Silveira from Van der Haagen(Flemish)

Rosa(most lines) from Rouze(Flemish)

Goulart is (french) I believe it means glutton

Terra from van Aard (Flemish)

There are many others.
Oh there are two lines that are related to Jean of Bethancourt in the Azores the other is Avila de Bettencourt which moved from the Canaries to Avila spain and remained there for a few generations before moving to the islands unfortunately there are gaps in the genealogies of these two lines which is too bad because the Bethancourt line traces to Normandy in the twelfth century.

http://bettenco.my.meganet.net/bett000t.htm#toc1

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Old 11-02-2015, 08:30 PM
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I suspect Sicilians would score identical to that Ashkenazi. But of the ones I have personally seen, their SSA is between 1-1.5%. Either way, it is so ancient.

You are fully Portuguese and score 1/3 of the SSA I score. And I also score more than any Ashkenazi, Sicilian, Greek or Portuguese on my list except for one, who is part Madeiran (half).

Here is mine. Full ancestry is 37.5% Sicily (+ Greek and Arbereshe), 12.5% Sardinia, 25% Poland, 6.25% Cape Verde and the rest Madeira.

# Population Percent
1 ENF 42.44
2 WHG-UHG 18.41
3 Caucas-Gedrosia 16.38
4 ANE 14.36
5 NearEast 5.34
6 Subsaharian 3.07
7 Paleo-African 0.01
Are you referring to the SSA myorigins results?

The Gedmatch calculators have difficulty distinguishing between Sicilian, Greek, and Jewish DNA.
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Old 11-02-2015, 09:13 PM
 
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Are you referring to the SSA myorigins results?

The Gedmatch calculators have difficulty distinguishing between Sicilian, Greek, and Jewish DNA.
Yes.

Sicilians, Aegean islands (Crete, Dodecanese, etc.) and Jews are all similar. Greeks from the mainland have a bit of Slavic ancestry so they are genetically different.
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Old 11-07-2015, 07:31 AM
 
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That's quite characteristics in America, whenever people have black blood they blame Sicilians, Greeks, Black Irish or the Three Wise Men.
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