We should take a poll to find the North/South dividing line (friendly, average)

[stlouisan]

Originally Posted by jonsereed

a brand new civil war would tell us where exactly that DIVIDING line stands

That's never going to happen

[pgm123]

Originally Posted by stlouisan

Louisville is the real "Gateway to the South." It doesn't make sense to call Cincy that because it's not the south. Nor is the region of Kentucky right below it. The northern half of Kentucky is a transition zone between the Midwest and south. The south in Kentucky IMO begins when you reach Louisville, Frankfort, and Lexington. Both Louisville and Lexington actually proclaim themselves as the places where the south starts.

I wonder if northern Kentucky was more Southern at the time that postcard was created. Also, does the gate itself have to be in the South? Would you consider St. Louis to be part of the West?

[ja1myn]

Originally Posted by jonsereed

a brand new civil war would tell us where exactly that DIVIDING line stands

Are you saying that if we had another stupid civil war that they south would win?

[James1202]

Originally Posted by stlouisan

That is good for a geographic matter, but bad for a cultural and climactic one. For the most part, regions generally don't respect latitudes. They respect hard geographic and political boundaries.

I agree. But the question didn't ask for a cultural or climatic division. I was being humorously literal. But now that you mention it, a climatic division would be super-funky because of the mountains, etc.

[James1202]

Originally Posted by stlouisan

Pretty much my thinking. I've never heard Cincinnati call itself Gateway to the South, ever.

I noted the difference going from Cincinnati, over the river, and up the hill...suddenly there was an accent.

[James1202]

Originally Posted by jonsereed

a brand new civil war would tell us where exactly that DIVIDING line stands

I thought the first one did that?

[Tezcatlipoca]

Originally Posted by LIGuy1202

I thought the first one did that?

Apparently not, considering Kentucky, West Virginia, and Maryland are usually grouped in the south, and often deep southerners claim Virginia is not in the south.

[1greatcity]

St. Louis- the northernmost southern city.

[Smtchll]

^ I thought it was the southernmost Northern city

[Tezcatlipoca]

If you stretch the definition of southern enough to include St. Louis, Baltimore has more southern culture than St. Louis and is north of St. Louis. Therefore winning that title. But of course, Baltimore isn't really southern anymore, and St. Louis never really was that southern in the first place.