We should take a poll to find the North/South dividing line (2013, roach)
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If you stretch the definition of southern enough to include St. Louis, Baltimore has more southern culture than St. Louis and is north of St. Louis. Therefore winning that title. But of course, Baltimore isn't really southern anymore, and St. Louis never really was that southern in the first place.
However, the climate of St. Louis is pretty much like the South these days due to warming temperatures. The winters there are very paltry as well.
However, the climate of St. Louis is pretty much like the South these days due to warming temperatures. The winters there are very paltry as well.
Baltimore is in climate zone 8, surrounded by climate zone 7, while St. Louis is in climate zone 5/6. St. Louis on average gets snowfall similar to north/central Maryland. This last winter though winters were nonexistent everywhere but Colorado from what I understand. Climate doesn't really make a place southern though.
The weirdest thread i've seen on this site about the north/south discussion was a thread about how southern Pennsylvania was. Apparently someone from New England decided to take a trip to my home of Pennsyltucky and concluded that they were in the south.
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Baltimore is in climate zone 8, surrounded by climate zone 7, while St. Louis is in climate zone 5/6. St. Louis on average gets snowfall similar to north/central Maryland. This last winter though winters were nonexistent everywhere but Colorado from what I understand. Climate doesn't really make a place southern though.
The weirdest thread i've seen on this site about the north/south discussion was a thread about how southern Pennsylvania was. Apparently someone from New England decided to take a trip to my home of Pennsyltucky and concluded that they were in the south.
What really?
Rural/poor/run-down/small town/hunting/fishing/friendly people/good food/Nascar/farms do not equal southern. People make this mistake far too often. If central PA is southern, then New York's southern tier is southern too.
Urban New Englanders and Minnesotans seem to be the worst in assuming these things.
Baltimore is in climate zone 8, surrounded by climate zone 7, while St. Louis is in climate zone 5/6. St. Louis on average gets snowfall similar to north/central Maryland. This last winter though winters were nonexistent everywhere but Colorado from what I understand. Climate doesn't really make a place southern though.
The weirdest thread i've seen on this site about the north/south discussion was a thread about how southern Pennsylvania was. Apparently someone from New England decided to take a trip to my home of Pennsyltucky and concluded that they were in the south.
And I know plenty of people in Memphis who think St. Louis is in the South, but that doesn't make it so
Rural/poor/run-down/small town/hunting/fishing/friendly people/good food/Nascar/farms do not equal southern. People make this mistake far too often. If central PA is southern, then New York's southern tier is southern too.
Urban New Englanders and Minnesotans seem to be the worst in assuming these things.
Indeed, if Rural/poor/run-down/small town/hunting/fishing/friendly people/good food/farms equaled southern, then even a fair bit of Maine would be "southern"...
I strongly disagree. I would say it's the southernmost northern city however.
As for the climate in St. Louis, I can tell you the winters are significantly milder just 100 miles to the south in terms of average snowfall, wind speed, and low temperatures.
From my experience, most New Yorkers consider Delaware to be "the South." And I'm talking about the Newark area, not Milford.
Here in Pennsylvania i'm considered a southerner, being originally from Maryland, but my friends from New England seem to believe i'm from the deep south.
Baltimore is in climate zone 8, surrounded by climate zone 7, while St. Louis is in climate zone 5/6. St. Louis on average gets snowfall similar to north/central Maryland. This last winter though winters were nonexistent everywhere but Colorado from what I understand. Climate doesn't really make a place southern though.
The weirdest thread i've seen on this site about the north/south discussion was a thread about how southern Pennsylvania was. Apparently someone from New England decided to take a trip to my home of Pennsyltucky and concluded that they were in the south.
Pennsylvania is not the South. It does have a very strong Appalachian culture in much of the state, though.
For some reason, many people think the Appalachian influences stop at the WV border.
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