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Old 11-26-2014, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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West Virginia and Arkansas. Landlocked states covered with mountains, had Rockefeller politicians, border non-Southern states even though they are notorious "hillbilly" states, have a single powerhouse college football team with crazy fans, and are both under 3 million people.
And they both support the Steelers.

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Old 11-26-2014, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Who Cares, USA
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I think you are being needlessly contrarian just for the sake of it. Likening Florida/California comparison to Florida/Ohio is stretching. I think if you ask most people in the country what they associate with "beach culture", Florida, and California, and Hawaii are probably going to be their top three. The "left coast" California is pretty exaggerated anyway. How many famous Republicans and evangelical Christians came from that state? I'd say they are up there with Florida in being swing state outside of the major metros.
Ah... I see you edited your post here long afterwards to add this little jab. I was being civil, but since you want to go this way with it, then let's go.

First of all, I wasn't being "contrarian just for the sake of it". I was disagreeing with you based upon my own actual experience of living in one of these states. You never lived in either, so where do you get off? Oh, that's right... you've visited them. How insightful. You do realize that simply disagreeing doesn't equate with being "contrarian just for the sake of it", right? People experience things differently, oh well. And if you read back on what I wrote about Ohio, you'll see that I only mentioned it because it has multiple cities, the same way Florida does, because you were using that factor to compare CA and FL. Way to take that one out of context.

Yes, people equate "beach culture" primarily with CA, FL, and Hawaii. However, they're three different kinds of beach culture. I'm taking complexities and nuance into account here. You're just looking at what's on the surface.

And why are you bringing politics and religion into this? Pick any highly populated state and you're going to get famous politicians from both ends of the spectrum, and religious nuts as well. That doesn't have anything to do with what I was talking about earlier.

Like I said, I'm not trying to change your opinion here. Just don't expect me to agree with it. And don't accuse me of being contrary for the sake of being contrary when all I'm doing is having a difference of opinion with you.
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Old 11-27-2014, 08:34 AM
 
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West Virginia and Arkansas. Landlocked states covered with mountains, had Rockefeller politicians, border non-Southern states even though they are notorious "hillbilly" states, have a single powerhouse college football team with crazy fans, and are both under 3 million people.
Arkansas is a completely Southern state and West Virginia is mostly Southern.
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Old 11-28-2014, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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Mostly a solid post. I'd put the prairie in MN at about 1/4 to 1/3 of the western part though, certainly not 2/3.
Nah, it "sounds" logical and is presented in a nice format and all but anyone who knows Michigan knows it's BS. MN/MI is a much, much closer comparison than MI/NY.
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Old 11-28-2014, 12:49 PM
 
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Take out the mountains, and add some humidity, and California becomes Florida. Compare Miami Beach to Venice Beach. Both have heavy Spanish-speaking populations. Both are drug gateways into America from Latin American growers. Both have some really old Spanish missions and forts. Both have a comparable number of large urban areas. Both grow a lot of oranges. Both are known for theme parks, and each house a Disney park (the only two in the United States.) I could go on.

Texas is an even more bizarro version of the two.
This is absurd. CA and FL, aside from a few superficial similarities between South Florida and Southern CA (i.e. Miami and LA), have very little in common. CA is socially and politically very progressive, has some of the best universities in the world, has multiple very urban environments, has a very educated population overall - FL is not like that at all.

Also, FL has nothing remotely like San Francisco and the Bay Area, has no deserts or redwood forests, there is nothing like Lake Tahoe, no mountains, etc. CA is polar opposite from the traditional Southern culture of Northern Florida.

I could go on and on, but these states are completely different in so many ways I don't even feel like I've scratched the surface.
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Old 11-28-2014, 12:57 PM
 
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Georgia and Mississippi,

Bama and South Carolina
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Old 11-28-2014, 01:41 PM
 
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Maybe Louisiana and South Carolina
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Old 11-28-2014, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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Washington-Colorado

Nevada-New Mexico

Nebraska-Oklahoma

Minnesota-Michigan

Iowa-Indiana

Illinois-Ohio

Pennsylvania-Virginia

Maryland-Massachusetts

Delaware-Rhode Island

New Jersey-Connecticut

Vermont-Maine

Arkansaw-West Virginia

Louisiana-Florida

Alabama-South Carolina

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Old 11-28-2014, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Who Cares, USA
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Nebraska-Oklahoma

Vermont-Maine

Alabama-South Carolina
Of all the ones you listed, those three are the only pairings that could possibly work, IMO. And even then, it's a bit of a stretch.
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Old 11-28-2014, 06:54 PM
 
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Of all the ones you listed, those three are the only pairings that could possibly work, IMO. And even then, it's a bit of a stretch.
Nebraska and Oklahoma aren't even remotely similar.
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