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Better designations would be based around the Great Lakes and the Great Plains. This mostly would place NY State in what would be the Great Lakes region. The NYC metro area would be excluded.
I thought quintessianl Midwest as Great Lakes + surrounding farm and industrial areas. The Plains states seem almost western, though obviously Iowa is midwestern.
IDENTICAL? That is a pretty strong word. In the city centers do they have large proportions of Puerto Ricans? I don't think so. Were they settled by New Englanders that claimed them as extensions of the Northeast? Linguistically, I would say no one in Cleveland or Toledo speaks like anyone in Kansas or Nebraska. You might have a case for Cincinnati, but not Northern or Eastern Ohio.
Ohio isn't that Puerto Rican compared to much of the Northeast. Cuyahoga County, which I assume is the most Puerto Rican in Ohio is only 3.0% Puerto Rican while the state as a whole is 0.9%. The entire state of Massachusetts is 4.2% Puerto Rican, many urban sections are much higher. I suppose there is a bit in common that Puerto Rican is the largest hispanic group, and much larger than Mexican, unlike most of the Midwest.
As for New Englanders claiming as an extension of the Northeast, that was only rather early on in settlement, later population waves led to bigger differences.
To me the whole great lakes region, including the cities in Pennsylvania and New York State are essentially midwestern. I cannot get my head to refer to places like Buffalo, NY, Erie, PA, or even Syracuse, NY as "northeastern" but oh well.
Anyways, no. Ohio feels very midwestern to me. It's the great plains states that feel more "western" than they do "midwestern".
The plains states were the last states added to the midwest. Some still dont refer to us as midwest. Ohio is a midwest origin.
False. The original states refered to as midwestern were West Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, Missouri and Kansas. The Great Lakes states, including Ohio, which were previously called the Northwest, very consciously adopted the moniker "midwestern" to advertize themselves to easterners and to attempt to distance themselves from their increasingly industrial reputation.
To me the whole great lakes region, including the cities in Pennsylvania and New York State are essentially midwestern. I cannot get my head to refer to places like Buffalo, NY, Erie, PA, or even Syracuse, NY as "northeastern" but oh well.
Anyways, no. Ohio feels very midwestern to me. It's the great plains states that feel more "western" than they do "midwestern".
Nah, PA and Upstate NY are Northeastern, except for people around Buffalo saying Pop instead of Soda.
Ohio isn't that Puerto Rican compared to much of the Northeast. Cuyahoga County, which I assume is the most Puerto Rican in Ohio is only 3.0% Puerto Rican while the state as a whole is 0.9%. The entire state of Massachusetts is 4.2% Puerto Rican, many urban sections are much higher. I suppose there is a bit in common that Puerto Rican is the largest hispanic group, and much larger than Mexican, unlike most of the Midwest.
As for New Englanders claiming as an extension of the Northeast, that was only rather early on in settlement, later population waves led to bigger differences.
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