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Old 10-20-2016, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Brookhaven, Mississippi
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Whites can still control the local political machine in a majority Black town. I also see that the Democrat that won the election is the city's first Black mayor.
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Old 10-20-2016, 12:19 PM
 
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As a native Marylander I will say that the rural parts of Maryland (Eastern shore, far southern Maryland and Carroll county) are pretty southern. The vote republican drive pickup trucks and listen to country music. However most people who live in Maryland wouldn't call them selves southern. Oddly enough there's some people in southern PA and south Jersey who fight the stereotype of being a southerner. Some even fly the confederate flag. This may sound weird but I think the south doesn't officially begin until Fredricksburg Virginia but it also ends at Harrisburg PA (Or Camden New Jersey). Anything in between there is possibly southern but not absolutely southern, if that makes any sense.
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Old 10-20-2016, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Derby, CT
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How many times can one say "culturally, linguistically, and demographically Southern"?

MD changed, VA is changing now. Have at it, keep moving that line :-)
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Old 10-20-2016, 01:00 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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How many times can one say "culturally, linguistically, and demographically Southern"?

MD changed, VA is changing now. Have at it, keep moving that line :-)
What Maryland changed? Baltimore hasn't changed.
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Old 10-20-2016, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Derby, CT
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What Maryland changed? Baltimore hasn't changed.
Baltimore history: City's Southern roots are clear - tribunedigital-baltimoresun
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Old 10-20-2016, 01:31 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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What Maryland changed? Baltimore hasn't changed.
Unfortunately.
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Old 10-20-2016, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Brookhaven, Mississippi
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As a native Marylander I will say that the rural parts of Maryland (Eastern shore, far southern Maryland and Carroll county) are pretty southern. The vote republican drive pickup trucks and listen to country music. However most people who live in Maryland wouldn't call them selves southern. Oddly enough there's some people in southern PA and south Jersey who fight the stereotype of being a southerner. Some even fly the confederate flag. This may sound weird but I think the south doesn't officially begin until Fredricksburg Virginia but it also ends at Harrisburg PA (Or Camden New Jersey). Anything in between there is possibly southern but not absolutely southern, if that makes any sense.
Lol is that your description of a southerner? I think it's fair to say a typical pick up truck riding, country music listening, and the republican mentality person are everywhere.
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Old 10-20-2016, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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i don't think confederate flag, country music listening and truck riding are linked to being Republican/conservative.

i've rarely seen confederate flags in SC in my 40 years. i see American flags everywhere, and the SC state flag.
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Old 10-20-2016, 02:31 PM
 
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How many times can one say "culturally, linguistically, and demographically Southern"?

MD changed, VA is changing now. Have at it, keep moving that line :-)
"Moving that line"? It's silly. Florida changed a long time ago; is it mid-Atlantic/Northern now?

The fact of the matter is that the definition of Southern is evolving and taking on new dimensions. The South won't cease to exist just because it is changing.
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Old 10-20-2016, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Derby, CT
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"Moving that line"? It's silly. Florida changed a long time ago; is it mid-Atlantic/Northern now?

The fact of the matter is that the definition of Southern is evolving and taking on new dimensions. The South won't cease to exist just because it is changing.
EXACTLY

Ergo Maryland is still a southern state!

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