Georgia 2nd Tier Cities, Why ALL THE HATE? (Atlanta, Columbus: vs, vacation)

[Columbuskidd92]

Water and land has always been a big issue in Columbus.

[tckr83]

All you have to do is look at where I've posted on my profile, I don't troll and if I do visit other forums... it's few and far between and always positive in dialogue. You might want to read the thread on your forum about the possible shopping center in Phenix City next to the river... I'm in it, my comments are supportive of the Columbus area... I've been on here for years, I don't troll.

Your map shows nothing but what pre and post consolidated Columbus looked like, with Jacksonville's post consolidated city limits overlaid on top... how does that prove your point? You don't think Augusta's size pre consolidation wasn't about exactly the same? I DO know that Augusta's pre-consolidated city limits were the downtown area (largely commercial, CBD, Medical district)... Your map shows pre-consolidated Columbus as central Muscogee (more residential), away from the downtown area and the Chattahoochee. Kind've odd as most cities city limits are the CBD/downtown area.. but at least that's what your map is showing.

Anyway, I gave you 3 reasons (among others) in summation as to why Augusta consolidated, it's land constricted. But you're fooling yourself if you don't think that ALL cities don't consolidate at least in large part... to get their grubby little hands on that extra tax money. So, your overall point in land acquisition and Columbus having a set of city morals that are unparalleled by any other city is undermined.

What's good for Columbus is good for Augusta, Savannah, Macon, etc... and the same goes the other way around. Competition is a good thing and the state needs more of it IMO as having all the eggs in one basket (Atlanta) isn't the best business model for the future growth of Georgia... but that's just me.

[Mutiny77]

Originally Posted by Columbuskidd92

Please don't be a TROLL.Its very clear why they both became consolidated. In Columbus case it was for land mass.
Columbus Consolidated Government - City/County Consolidation: Columbus, Georgia

Wow I didn't know south of downtown was the whole area downtown.

No city and consolidate for "land mass," whatever that means. It's about reduction in duplication of services and expansion of the tax base by increasing the population. Even the link you provided shows that increasing the population was a goal of consolidation for Columbus and Muscogee County:

Although consolidation was the primary goal, annexation of 42.5 square miles, containing an estimated 52,000 people, was desired by the city government as a step toward consolidation and as a necessity if the metropolitan population of Columbus was to be reflected in the 1970 census, upon which state and federal grants would be based.

Columbus is no grand exemption in terms of consolidates. All cities and counties that are consolidated do so for the same reasons, and that includes both Columbus and Augusta.

[cdw1084]

I'm from GA but this second tier city bashing is really annoying. Who cares who's out in front because all 2nd tier cities are pretty much an uncommon interest to most people besides Savannah. Augusta does have the largest metro. Columbus will probably gain its position as 2nd largest city in the state. Macon may turn around and become something to write home about but in reality it's not that serious....The common issue for the last four years....How come Columbus feels so small?l....How come Macon has so much crime?.....dead horse...

You don't have to beat other cities in the state down to make yours ''appear" better because they all have pros and cons.

[Mutiny77]

It's all pretty much a cripple fight and is quite amusing if nothing else.

[RNF]

Macon consolidated would be at like 120k-160k population. Get er done. IMO all the 2nd tier cities except savannah are the same in the mind of an average person from GA.

[cdw1084]

Originally Posted by Mutiny77

It's all pretty much a cripple fight and is quite amusing if nothing else.

I know LOL..

I think our 2nd tier cities need to model off of our Border States 2nd tier cities.

Look at Huntsville, Greenville, Knoxville, Chattanooga and maybe Mobile. Those are the class of 2nd tier cities if you ask me.

[River_Dawg]

Not Greenville IMO

[tckr83]

Greenville is nice... very deserving of being among the cities in that list mentioned. Largest metro, very busy airport, nice parks, revitalized downtown, they attract good jobs... dunno what else they need to do except continue to grow.

But yes, Georgia's second tier cities are behind it's peers for the most part in the Southeast... this has also been my opinion on this site for a while... None of the other second tier cities live within the same state as Atlanta and none of the other second tier peer cities are located in a state with all it's eggs in one basket like Georgia.

[River_Dawg]

Greenville is a top tiers city in Carolina passing Columbia (Capital) and Charleston (Coastal).