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Old 08-18-2022, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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But the GDP isn't. Charleston isn't elite. You're starting to reach a little here. It has just as many poor people as the other areas man. Smh. You act like it's LA, NY, or San Diego. I can live anywhere in this state comfortably. My ex lives comfortably down there and makes about half what I do.
GDP isn’t where to look.
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Old 08-18-2022, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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Ryder - as strategic as they come in downtown - $289 -

He who can’t cut it, don’t come. Charleston will be be fine, and is getting better all the time.

Such a silly topic. Such a silly thread. And the silliest part is the provinciality. SC had better hope Charleston continues to do well with tourism. And Greenville and Columbia’s can’t hurt the state’s bottom line.
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Old 08-18-2022, 05:22 PM
 
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GDP isn’t where to look.
Sure it is. Clear indicator of a metro areas' economy production. Stop acting like Charleston is the best thing since sliced bread in SC. Lol. This is turning into what used to be typical for the average Charleston poster on here. A little bit of unwarranted arrogance. I understand you're trying to prove a point to someone, but it isn't going to work. It will just continue to go back and forth. You aren't changing anyone's mind with this.
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Old 08-18-2022, 05:23 PM
 
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The Charleston Place hotel, starting at $646 on Friday night, is directly across King St from the Rack Room Shoes.

For that rate, you could be getting beach access or ski slope access somewhere, not access to a shoe store found in most towns with any retail.

Charlestondata, I thought you had presented Charleston as a progressive city but you don't seem concerned about people being priced out in downtown Charleston. Everybody has a seat at the table in a truly progressive city.

Charleston's tourism only benefits people who work in that industry. Has no relationship to most people in SC. I do believe a hotel limit imposed by the city of Charleston should be overruled by the state on anti-trust grounds. Why is the city blocking free enterprise.

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Old 08-18-2022, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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Sure it is. Clear indicator of a metro areas' economy production. Stop acting like Charleston is the best thing since sliced bread in SC. Lol. This is turning into what used to be typical for the average Charleston poster on here. A little bit of unwarranted arrogance. I understand you're trying to prove a point to someone, but it isn't going to work. It will just continue to go back and forth. You aren't changing anyone's mind with this.
I’m not acting like Charleston is anything. I just compared on Nerd Wallet. To maintain a standard of living in Greenville that someone making $50,000 in Charleston-North Charleston has, you need to make $48,149. Not sure why they compare Charleston-North Charleston to Greenville instead of to Greenville-Anderson-Mauldin. North Charleston’s cheap compared to Charleston.
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Old 08-18-2022, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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The Charleston Place hotel, starting at $646 on Friday night, is directly across King St from the Rack Room Shoes.

For that rate, you could be getting beach access or ski slope access somewhere, not access to a shoe store found in most towns with any retail.

Charlestondata, I thought you had presented Charleston as a progressive city but you don't seem concerned about people being priced out in downtown Charleston. Everybody has a seat at the table in a truly progressive city.

Charleston's tourism only benefits people who work in that industry. Has no relationship to most people in SC. I do believe a hotel limit imposed by the city of Charleston should be overruled by the state on anti-trust grounds. Why is the city blocking free enterprise.
When Greenville tourism catches up with Charleston’s, you’ll probably be singing a different tune. Ask Barcelona. Like NYC isn’t progressive. Like San Francisco isn’t progressive. Free American enterprise in Greenville is pricing people out of downtown as well. That’s American cities for you.

The state’s GDP and budget are used to the tourism dollars spent in Charleston. It’s not just a Charleston thing.
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Old 08-18-2022, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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Sure it is. Clear indicator of a metro areas' economy production. Stop acting like Charleston is the best thing since sliced bread in SC. Lol. This is turning into what used to be typical for the average Charleston poster on here. A little bit of unwarranted arrogance. I understand you're trying to prove a point to someone, but it isn't going to work. It will just continue to go back and forth. You aren't changing anyone's mind with this.
Money dot CNN says you only need $45,000 in Greenville for the same standard of living as $50,000 in Charleston.
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Old 08-18-2022, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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Sure it is. Clear indicator of a metro areas' economy production. Stop acting like Charleston is the best thing since sliced bread in SC. Lol. This is turning into what used to be typical for the average Charleston poster on here. A little bit of unwarranted arrogance. I understand you're trying to prove a point to someone, but it isn't going to work. It will just continue to go back and forth. You aren't changing anyone's mind with this.
The average wage in metro Charleston is $1.68 higher than in Greenville, or $3,494 higher per year as of May, 2021. That’s nothing to wave off by SC standards on the face of it. The median home price is $100,000 more in Charleston. It’s like asking which is more “elite,” San Francisco or Sacramento.
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Old 08-18-2022, 06:39 PM
 
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Greenville seems to get the right amount of tourism in my view. I'd be ok with less. It has taken me a half hour to drive down Main Street some evenings. This area is probably going to double in population in the next 30 years. Greenville County is already the most SC populated county by a significant margin.

I kind of miss the late 90s version of Greenville when it was more off the grid but well liked by people who knew about it.

Those "elite" cities you mentioned are also known for heartbreaking homelessness and drug addicts in the street. Wealth doesn't cancel out poverty.

I think Greenville and Clemson's football program have had a similar trajectory. Many people who like to put cities and football programs into tiers seem to have a problem with Greenville and Clemson. They think Greenville and Clemson fans are uppity and neither is a "blueblood". The upstate has a fun underdog David slaying Goliath vibe.

You can say things like Greenville's downtown is America's Downtown and Clemson is America's College Town to be cheeky yet it is still plausible. The critics don't get it like they don't get Dabo's "Little Ol Clemson" thing.

Check out these touristy quotes about Greenville from various publications: https://www.visitgreenvillesc.com/ab...le-are-saying/

Charlestondata, soon to be Greenvilledata, will appreciate this one: “With apologies to Charleston, Greenville is the next South Atlantic hotspot.”
-Smarter Travel

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Old 08-18-2022, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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Looking at hotel rates in Charleston for Friday night.

Rooms in The Charleston Place downtown are starting at $646. Looks like the lowest rate for a hotel in the nicer part of the downtown is 400 or so. I saw one around East Bay St that was over $1000. That's insane. I feel like spending 80 dollars on a hotel room is a waste of money. There's no doubt the hotels in downtown lobbied the city for the ban on new ones. Never thought a person would try to spin a hotel cartel as a positive for a city. It is safe to say the average tourist isn't staying in downtown Charleston.

Hotel rooms around Main St in Greenville are approximately $215 or more for Friday night.

A person who dropped over 1000 on a hotel in downtown Charleston for one night would probably be the kind of person deeply concerned about Greenville boosterism. Greenville boosterism is not in the same solar system with Charleston boosterism.
College of Charleston fall move-in dates are this weekend, so Downtown hotels will probably be higher than other weekends. The last few times I have visited Charleston I have stayed in Mount Pleasant. It’s a lot cheaper than anywhere on the peninsula. I went to C of C about 40 years ago when C of C was much smaller, and at the time it was harder to get into C of C, especially if you needed on-campus housing, than it was to get in Clemson. I applied to both schools early in my senior year of HS and got into Clemson in December and C of C in March. They are totally different college experiences and you can’t compare the two schools, just like you can’t really compare Greenville to Charleston because they are so different.
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