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If the allopathic MD's got their heads out of the sand, they don't get the paychecks they make and I know there are MD's out there, one specifically in my town, who went outside the big box and his medical license was taken away. That's the power of AMA. He's now working as a naturopath and close to totally retiring but he went thru hail and back to help his patients with all he knew. He had a huge practice for many years.
1. MD's don' have their heads in the sand. Patient's who only believe in alternative voodoo but somehow thinks that equates to having "an open mind" quite clearly DO have their heads in the sand...blindly believing in nonsense like GSE
2. You have mentioned this doc who lost his license before as I recall, he lost his license for CAUSE...NOT for thinking outside of the box....it isn't easy to take away an MD's license. State licensing boards don't just pull them on a whim
3. The AMA has NO power....the AMA is a physician lobbying group that most physicians don't even belong to...the AMA certainly has no authority to pull or grant medical licenses....that is a STATE function.
I've seen lots of questions where posters are asking for serious help.
In the past few days, I've seen questions regarding symptoms what could have been a serious eye or stroke issue and a possible heart attack.
Most CDers have no professional training and give anecdotal information only.
Some talk about friends, or worse-friends of friends. And some posters jump on alt-med for everything
A few of us have professional degrees. I'm a pharmacist and I know there are quite a few nurses here. I can't remember a doctor answering a question
If something is wrong wit you, go to the emergency room or make an appointment with your doc.
Do not waste precious time here looking for non-answers
I can see asking questions regarding rehab and long term illnesses like diabetes and allergies. Time is not important for those
AFAIK:
--C-D medical advice may not be valid, but at least its free
It costs money for ER services, and Urgent Care isn't cheap either for those without insurance or otherwise don't have the funds
--Some symptoms may be embarrassing, and online anonymity helps a bit with asking
Who really knows?
"My laceration has a pulsing spurt of blood. Is that serious?"
"My wife is clutching her throat...her eyes are bulging. She's been like this a while. Wait. NEVERMIND she fell asleep."
"Elbows aren't supposed to bend like this are they? I'm trying to decide whether I should make an appointment after our Disney vacation."
I haven't read all the replies, so forgive me if this has already been addressed. But I think a lot of people try to avoid doctors or hospitals because of cost. Even if someone has insurance, an ER visit or tests can cost thousands of dollars. Folks are afraid that they can't afford it.
Also, people just don't trust doctors. I'm one of them. I used to trust them, until I got sick. For every good doctor I ran across, there were two who were horrible. I had 5, yes FIVE, doctors flat out refuse to test me for what I though I had. It's a simple, inexpensive blood test covered by my insurance. They tested me for everything else, but refused to test me for the one thing I ended up actually having. I had an endocrinologist say they could tell, "Just by looking at me," that I didn't have thyroid issues (guess what? I did). after a different endo actually did the tests for thyroid function, it was found to be quite far out of whack. I could go on and on.
I hear you on this...years ago when I was in a 10 yr struggle to get thyroid "supported"...one md had me drink a glass of water and said your thyroid is fine, and one endo touched around my thyroid neck area and said you are fine but you have Fibromyalgia...that was in 1999 or so...long long 10 yrs. Finally got a D.O. who worked on my back for years listen to my story, he called in for Armour, no labs and depression lifted in a few days...10 yrs of depression.
I just love the doctors here who like to make others think they are crazy...unbelievable. Some just love to use the word nonsense for what others use for their health.....
I started my distrust in the 80's from a major side effect for a pharma drug...put me in the ER for a day.
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The same can be asked on many forums on the internet which asks strangers who do not know you for advice on things that will affect your life. Stuff like should I get a divorce? Is my wife cheating? I have pain in the left side of my body, what does that mean?
I seldom ask questions on forums because no one knows me personally and is only hearing my side of the story or my interpretation of the illness or problem.
Everyone has an opinion. The trick is to figure out which are informed opinions and which are not. Those which are not informed opinions are taken as entertainment. The informed opinions deserve some consideration. However, any important decision you make in life should never be taken from information by random strangers on the internet.
So why do people post these problems and why do we answer. Posting problems allows you to vent. It also allows you to put your thoughts in order. It makes you feel that you are doing something, but not necessarily the only thing.
Why do we answer? Personally I tend to answer questions about things I have personal experience with. So do others. Some are just killing time. Others always have an opinion on everything while many truly want to be of some help or offer guidance. We all have our own reasons for replying to posts.
When I post a reply I am responding to the poster and to no one else. I am sure that most do the same. Yet there are those who attack the person responding to the OP because it runs contra to their own opinion and the thread turns into a I know better than you do type of thing with people attacking each other and the OP left with few responses to his/her post but many attacking the people replying. I think that many of us realize that ad hominem attacks are the lowest form of proving your point. It reflects badly on those doing it, and shows that their opinion is weak and cannot be defended by fact. Speaking of fact, many people think that that if they believe something, it is fact. My wife is that way. She will fight to the death for a 'fact' simply because she heard it from a friend and it falls within her own belief system.
On the internet you can find proof to support any 'fact' you have, literally, so do not defend your facts to the death or vilify others for supporting their own facts. Offer help when you think it is helpful and do so with the OP in mind and not the replies of others. We all know someone who talks for the simple reason that they like to talk no matter what they say. We also know people who think they are right and will not entertain that maybe they are not right. Then there are the trolls who are trying to stir things up or trying to see how many replies they can get.
My last profession was as a Chief Information Officer and in that capacity I took many classes and seminars about the internet and the free information contained in it. It is still estimated that 60% of the "facts" presented on the internet is false in whole or in part. There are many self appointed experts whose expertise is limited to what they read someone else post who read it from yet another old post.
I view all of this as simply shooting the breeze with a bunch of people you just met and enjoying the conversation. Provide advice if that advice has helped me or others and provide informed opinions for consideration. I am not here or there to put down what others think or believe, I simply express my own opinion and let whoever is interested make up their own mind. I just enjoy conversing with people, not arguing.
This is a wonderful post in many ways - addressing motives, etc., and for me, because it focuses on goodwill.
I like the "shooting the breeze" and "enjoying the conversation" images.
Well said about shooting the breeze. Can't do that with everyone and that's for sure.
Love that saying.... and doctors certainly dont... they go only with what theyre taught at medical school and dont see what is to be found yet around them.... they follow rules and teaching and refuse anything else... time to wake up..
Love that saying.... and doctors certainly dont... they go only with what theyre taught at medical school and dont see what is to be found yet around them.... they follow rules and teaching and refuse anything else... time to wake up..
Not sure what doctors you're going to but my MD is open to natural remedies and things like acupuncture, etc. He's never pushed pills on me. Maybe 50 years ago that was the case but I think now it's not anywhere near that common. Of course not to say it doesn't still exist but to lump all doctors into the pill pusher category is simply not accurate.
who really knows?
"my laceration has a pulsing spurt of blood. Is that serious?"
"my wife is clutching her throat...her eyes are bulging. She's been like this a while. Wait. Nevermind she fell asleep."
"elbows aren't supposed to bend like this are they? I'm trying to decide whether i should make an appointment after our disney vacation."
Not sure what doctors you're going to but my MD is open to natural remedies and things like acupuncture, etc. He's never pushed pills on me. Maybe 50 years ago that was the case but I think now it's not anywhere near that common. Of course not to say it doesn't still exist but to lump all doctors into the pill pusher category is simply not accurate.
Great for you that you have this type of MD...I have one too but she an integrative MD. They are First alternatives and IF necessary a drug. A rheumy I was seeing was and is into acupuncture and prolo and alt works, she's rare. I may be in need of a MD like you mention and if you live in So. Cal area I'd like the name of your MD for future...you can DM me. Thanks.
The major percentage of MD's are not open to natural I'd wager.
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