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Old 12-04-2013, 07:52 AM
 
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The roads are in trash condition and people still believe that having semi-decent roads is inviting too much government. I find it even funnier when conservatives call for a smaller government while asking folks to vote for them...
I love how the left always runs to the "conservative don't want any government or services argument", which is total BS. It's no different than if I said liberals call for government to control 100% of everything. Liberals want the government to tell everybody what time to go to bed.

I don't want a government that pays for never ending unemployment. I don't like unions due to their "promotions should be based on seniority" and "no job should ever be lost" mentality. I'm not quite sure how this translates to "I don't want road maintained or garbage picked up".

Edit: BTW, have you noticed that I back things like having taxes pay for public transportation, and that we need to invest more now in light rail? I'm guessing not.
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Old 12-04-2013, 08:56 AM
 
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I love how the left always runs to the "conservative don't want any government or services argument", which is total BS. It's no different than if I said liberals call for government to control 100% of everything. Liberals want the government to tell everybody what time to go to bed.

I don't want a government that pays for never ending unemployment. I don't like unions due to their "promotions should be based on seniority" and "no job should ever be lost" mentality. I'm not quite sure how this translates to "I don't want road maintained or garbage picked up".

Edit: BTW, have you noticed that I back things like having taxes pay for public transportation, and that we need to invest more now in light rail? I'm guessing not.
AND if you actually read my last response, you would know that I am no liberal or conservative. I pay taxes and want the government to function properly. This thread is not about unions or unemployment. Lets all just get back to the discussion about Houston becoming an Up and Coming Destination and how the City can become better.
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Old 12-04-2013, 09:27 AM
 
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AND if you actually read my last response, you would know that I am no liberal or conservative. I pay taxes and want the government to function properly. This thread is not about unions or unemployment. Lets all just get back to the discussion about Houston becoming an Up and Coming Destination and how the City can become better.
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The roads are in trash condition and people still believe that having semi-decent roads is inviting too much government. I find it even funnier when conservatives call for a smaller government while asking folks to vote for them...
If you don't want to get into a liberal vs conservative debate, don't call out conservatives in your post.
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Old 12-04-2013, 09:32 AM
 
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If you don't want to get into a liberal vs conservative debate, don't call out conservatives in your post.
And you can stop claiming that government doing their job is turning us into a Nanny state. Lets reset this and have a good discussion about Houston.
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Old 12-04-2013, 09:54 AM
 
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Houston is definitely a city of opportunities with lots of new wealth being created. The people are upbeat, optimistic and ready to connect and do business.
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Old 12-04-2013, 10:48 AM
 
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Houston is definitely a city of opportunities with lots of new wealth being created. The people are upbeat, optimistic and ready to connect and do business.
*oppotunities* - they dont necessarily last long so plan accordingly
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Old 12-04-2013, 11:27 AM
 
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Actually there's a lot of great little nocturnal playgrounds in Houston outside of the Loop. "Family life", lol. Those myriad young ethnicities and professionals out there, I don't see too much in the way of stereotypical "family" orientation in those fun late-night hangouts all over Houston.

Yeah, I see quiet family life in the loud Flying Saucer, BLU Lounge and Turquoise Bar in Sugar Land. Seeing those whitebread children at Monnalisa Bar of City Centre scribbling with their crayons. They are playing children's scrabble at Diablo Loco, Deck House, Centerfold's and Concert Pub along Richmond Ave. Yep, I see mommies giving hot chocolate to the kiddies in the likes of Tiger Den, Cafe 101, Giau Bar N Bites of New Chinatown. Gotta hand it to the rugrats eating yummy brownies among those slick young Russians, Colombians and Greeks at either Cafe Europe or Dandanah next door on Fountainview.

Houston is typically dismissed only as a "place to start a work life" only to "build a family life?" And yet these cool hangouts mentioned, among many, are outside the Loop.

"Disneyland", "Universal Studios", "Santa Monica?" LOL. "Getty Center alone puts LA as miles apart from Houston?"

Last I see, Houston is a major cultural powerhouse. Houston is one of only four US cities to be a permanent base for all the major performance arts disciplines of ballet, theater, symphony and opera. I do not know if LA is in that class of cities, correct me if I'm wrong. East Coast expats who move to Houston and take their culture seriously agree that it's nothing to sneeze at:
Discovery zone: For Boston expat, the Houston performing arts scen... - CultureMap Houston

Discovery Green in Houston is "free." Walking up and down that way cool concrete trail in the Heights, off White Oak is "free."
Houston has free legendary museums:
Houston Museums - Fine Art - Museum District - Children - Visit Houston

There is no cost for me to do some laps on that wonderful concrete walkabout surrounding the neat pond in Arthur Storey Park. No admission fee for me to do that near endless green wonderland called Hershey Park so close to my abode! Lovin' Houston's parks, man. Los Angeles is a city that has its own public space issues.

"Disneyland" and "Universal City" are not "free." In fact, I find meandering around Sugar Land Town Square and City Centre to be a MUCH superior constructs of canned entertainment than Universal City Walk. NO parking costs in their garages just to stroll around a packaged environment, unlike, Universal City Walk, average cost of $15-30 just to park.

Neither the likes of Hollywood, Santa Monica nor Old Town Pasadena give us that unpretentious, brash, can-can, throw-it-out there yet laid-back entertainment district like the colorful unique palapa bars of Kemah Light House District! I lived in SoCal for quite a few years, and find me a truly FUN, unabashed feckless place like Kemah's T-Bone Tom's out there. Won't find it.

Much preferred the Long Beach Ports-O-Call vibe than Santa Monica or Newport Beach, anyway.

We have every virtually every range of viable and substantial city entertainment, short of legal gambling, here in the Houston region. Whatever's out in Disney Land and Getty doesn't alter that.

Houston does have shotgun poverty that is a little more apparent compared to L.A. or San Diego. BUT...for us lower middle class types (nurse/health care H.I.M)...Houston is way, way more liveable than SoCal.

We can afford a decent house in Houston..and have enough for entertainment AND savings. In SoCal we always had to live with people just to pay rent and have money for other bills and food, meager entertainment. Forget about real savings out there! Here in Houston, we in the decent middle class do not have to live with roommates or borders. Not in the least.

And many of our modest and affordable ranch homes look substantially nicer than those way, way over-priced mud lawns of L.A. and San Diego's modest 'hoods.

Many middle class types CANNOT afford to live COMFORTABLY in California anymore the way they can here. The middle class is really kind of close to extinct in Cali. So many, many people cannot buy a house or at least rent COMFORTABLY without borders out in Cali. I lived that out there. What kind of life is that, really?

Who gives a bleep about better government-funded lifestyle projects when increasing numbers of people live like near service-industry paupers to the elites out in Los Angeles or Orange County or San Diego?

The Unaffordable Golden State: Only 1/3 Californians can afford a home. How a minor jump in interest rates and a big rise in prices has thrown off affordability. Price reductions at highest level in 3 years. » Dr. Housing Bubble Blog

Southern California Economy Not Keeping Up | Newgeography.com

A slap of reality, all the allegedly superior Los Angeles city spending can't help this factor for the labor to lower middle class:
High Rents Make Housing Unaffordable for Most People in Los Angeles | Southern California Association of Nonprofit Housing (SCANPH)

When my wife and I left SoCal we have never looked back.
This is the most ridiculous super booster post I have ever seen. Worldly, you're known as the resident booster but this post takes the cake. I mean to actually compare a bunch of good bars and restaurants to the likes of an already established international world class city like Los Angeles is laughable.

I am a Houston booster myself. I critique only because I see it's potential going to waste. It could be the next major world class city but I see it trying to be more like Dallas 2.0 instead. With LA's natural topography, it's beaches, Santa Monica Mountains, hills, the fact that you can ski, hike and surf all in the same area, Hollywood, etc. How in the heck can you actually compare this to Houston? Seriously are you that delusional? I am glad you enjoy Houston as much as I do but can you really with a straight face say that Houston is somehow better than LA aesthetically? Not only that but I am not talking about your personal preference but the fact that LA is WAY more established as a major city when Houston is just getting it's start.

Now on to your ridiculous premises:

I didn't say Disneyland was free, I said that the city offers a lot of free events for people and it's parks are amazing and cannot compare with Houston's. What the heck is wrong with you? How are you gonna compare Griffith Park and the Observatory with Herman or Memorial.

How are you going to compare Kemah or even Galveston to Santa Monica, Venice or Malibu? Are you joking? If you prefer Houston to LA that is one thing, to each his own, but to go out on a limb and start saying that Houston (which has potential to be the best) has somehow surpassed Los Angeles as a major hub is bonkers, dude. Straight up bananas. That seems delusional and insecure at best. There is no amount of name dropping all the best little hot spots in Houston that will clear that check for you. So stop pretending you're a wannabe Houston Press blogger, you're not going to convince anyone that Houston has somehow made it. You will convince me and others in here that Houston has the best potential of any city in America right now to be the best city. It has the ability to outshine the major cities by a huge mile. On that I agree but for now I see that Houston is wasting it's efforts by shunning the basic things that most major cities in America do, like creating a city government that lives out of the shadow of big business.

Los Angeles and Cali in general suffers from chronic unemployment due to the housing crash which devastated the region. Something like 10 percent of the population is unemployed. That is HUGE. Housing prices are insane here and people do live like paupers. But LA is also the biggest working class city I've ever seen. But for all of it's problems it still remains a relatively safe city in comparison to its size and it hasn't fallen into complete disarray. Why? Because it has an active government that has done a lot to keep it from looking like Detroit. Many people live on assistance. That's sad and shouldn't be but it has kept the city from going into Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome territory. There are also mad opportunities in education here which blow the silly junior college/trade school thing in Houston.

I am not here to just defend LA, it has it's own problems, but the point is that you clearly do not know what you're talking about. Not in the slightest. Los Angeles is densely populated, one of the most packed areas in the nation, so real estate is expensive. Many people want to live here so land is not cheap. Houston is not as developed or densely populated which keeps land prices low. Texas has the second-biggest land area in the country, much of it quite flat and thus available for development. The supply of land keeps prices low and makes it considerably less expensive to start a business or build housing than in many other parts of the country. Texas has by far the most open land among the nation’s most populous states. Because of it's unique position in this regard it was able to weather the housing storm easily. Other States like CA were not lucky.

Houston has a very diverse economy that keeps it strong. The State has abundant oil resources which with high commodity price on oil remains it's most valuable asset. Also, whatever benefits Houston and TX for that matter may be acquiring by virtue of having lower taxes likely have been wiped out by its lower expenditures on services. The city and state spend less because they lack A LOT of stuff other states don't have, which is why parts of Houston and the rest of the state look THIRD WORLD. Everyone says Houston's infrastructure sucks big ones! Instead of capitulating to every demand businesses want, take some of that wealth and build your frickin' roads back. People are without health care working low wage jobs with no benefits and no real right to unionize. I guess that's all OK because you were able to afford that house in rapidly deteriorating suburb where poverty is going up.

Don't even get me started on crime. The point is that Texas is unique. Very unique. Several factors keep it strong that other States cannot replicate. So you cannot compare TX or Houston to every other city or state in the country. It's a different bird altogether. That is why I think it's silly when the boosters post every article on here the financial rags put out about Houston. Those rags are just trying to promote an agenda across the country to change national policy to fit the Texas "model". And because I think it's in such a unique position that Houston CAN afford to provide for more social services, allocate more public space to build more Discovery Greens, spend more on education, and fix infrastructure. The businesses aren't going anywhere. You guys are just being bamboozled into believing they will leave if you do anything to anger them.
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Old 12-04-2013, 12:00 PM
 
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nacholibre, wordyman is our resident ridiculous super booster. *it's happenin'* everywhere in houston according to him
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Old 12-04-2013, 12:18 PM
 
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nacholibre, wordyman is our resident ridiculous super booster. *it's happenin'* everywhere in houston according to him
I admire his enthusiasm for Houston. I really do. I think Houston is amazing and you can count me as one of the boosters but yes, his boosting takes on a whole new dimension.
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Old 12-04-2013, 12:46 PM
 
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Houston seems to be a pretty good destination for third world escapees and desperate out of state unemployed. The young , rich and artsy I am not so sure about.
I agree. Young and Rich and Artsy live in NY, LA, Miami, Las Vegas, Chicago. Houston is like Atlanta...a great relative low cost place to live but nobody who is Young and Rich are "Rushing" to move to these places. Tell the truth if you had $30 Million+ in you account you would most likely move next year. Houston is for the out of state unemployed and immigrants. You know its true. If cash was different I wouldnt live here either.
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