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You took the words out of my mouth. Without the enforcement of our laws, it doesn’t matter who is president. However, it certainly doesn’t help having a president who wants to roll out the red carpet to illegals, and refers to citizens who oppose illegal immigration as enemies and hate mongers.
While we are in general agreement,Obama's outright pandering to the Pro Illegals on a continuing basis is forging a closer association of his name with their cause.
Bush Jr. wanted Amnesty also and after he failed to get much traction he didn't continue to harp on it.
Obama's meetings with Ethnocentric politicians and groups,commenting and promising action,and trying to force this issue upon the Country is taking it alot further than Bush Jr. did. And in the end it will backfire.
While we are in general agreement,Obama's outright pandering to the Pro Illegals on a continuing basis is forging a closer association of his name with their cause.
Bush Jr. wanted Amnesty also and after he failed to get much traction he didn't continue to harp on it.
Obama's meetings with Ethnocentric politicians and groups,commenting and promising action,and trying to force this issue upon the Country is taking it alot further than Bush Jr. did. And in the end it will backfire.
Indeed it will backfire. In his quest for the pro-illegal Hispanic vote, he will lose many staunch supporters from other racial/ethnic groups. I know quite a few black folks who no longer support him due to his pandering to illegals. He doesn’t realize he may gain a few million votes, and simultaneously lose tenfold.
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No doubt. I am sick of hearing about Reagan and Bush. Its about as childish as it can get.
Johnny broke a window you yell at him and he exclaims well Davy broke 1 too!!!! Oh ok in that case your ok .
NO it doesn't matter who made the same mistake or how many times it gets made. Wrong is still wrong every time.
We need someone like Brewer or Peirce to turn it around.
Like Benicar said, I think that all it would take would be to enforce our exsisting immigration Laws and(slowly but surely) everything would fall into place.
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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While we are in general agreement,Obama's outright pandering to the Pro Illegals on a continuing basis is forging a closer association of his name with their cause.
Bush Jr. wanted Amnesty also and after he failed to get much traction he didn't continue to harp on it.
Obama's meetings with Ethnocentric politicians and groups,commenting and promising action,and trying to force this issue upon the Country is taking it alot further than Bush Jr. did. And in the end it will backfire.
If you noticed, BO has a habit of "forcing" things upon the people.
He has no desire to negotiate. Does he even realize that he's working for "The People" ??
The People are NOT working for him.
And as said, he WILL regret his actions when election time comes.
Indeed it will backfire. In his quest for the pro-illegal Hispanic vote, he will lose many staunch supporters from other racial/ethnic groups. I know quite a few black folks who no longer support him due to his pandering to illegals. He doesn’t realize he may gain a few million votes, and simultaneously lose tenfold.
No he won't. Obama has absolutely nothing to lose on backing illegal reform...
There are not enough Obama voters in the anti illegal segment to fill a phone booth.
So he annoys those who won't vote for him anyway.
This is not an issue with support outside the hard core right.
No he won't. Obama has absolutely nothing to lose on backing illegal reform...
There are not enough Obama voters in the anti illegal segment to fill a phone booth.
So he annoys those who won't vote for him anyway.
This is not an issue with support outside the hard core right.
Really? Do you have proof, or is this just wishful thinking?
BTW, I voted for Obama, as did all of the people I mentioned in my previous post. In fact, a few even worked on his campaign. None of us are Republicans, hardcore right, or even leaning right.
I hate to burst your bubble, but illegal immigration is not a partisan issue.
To have a sensible approach to Immigration Legal and Illegal Obama would have to go.
These issues can't be addressed while we have a Buffoon in office in perpetual campaign mode willing to bend over every time he sees a chance to advance his political fortunes no matter what the costs.
His tired rhetoric,Lies and hollow promises are only clouding the realities of these issues. In short the American Public doesn't trust this FOOL to do the right thing.
Just look at the issues and promises he made about Iraq
,Gitmo,Afghanistan,the Economy,Immigration Reform,Tax cuts,Unemployment,etc,etc...
.....and i actually thought you had something serious to say.
To have a sensible approach to Immigration Legal and Illegal Obama would have to go.
These issues can't be addressed while we have a Buffoon in office in perpetual campaign mode willing to bend over every time he sees a chance to advance his political fortunes no matter what the costs.
His tired rhetoric,Lies and hollow promises are only clouding the realities of these issues. In short the American Public doesn't trust this FOOL to do the right thing.
Just look at the issues and promises he made about Iraq
,Gitmo,Afghanistan,the Economy,Immigration Reform,Tax cuts,Unemployment,etc,etc...
You mean it will be 6 years before Immigration can be serioulsly thought about? Gasp! Gasp!
To have a sensible approach to Immigration Legal and Illegal Obama would have to go.
These issues can't be addressed while we have a Buffoon in office in perpetual campaign mode willing to bend over every time he sees a chance to advance his political fortunes no matter what the costs.
His tired rhetoric,Lies and hollow promises are only clouding the realities of these issues. In short the American Public doesn't trust this FOOL to do the right thing.
Just look at the issues and promises he made about Iraq
,Gitmo,Afghanistan,the Economy,Immigration Reform,Tax cuts,Unemployment,etc,etc...
You might want to do some history. Reagan promised Immigration reform and it FAILED HORRIBLY. He gave amnesty too.
The first thing we need is a return to rationality. With the current conservatism, fear mongering, ignorance, hyper patriotism...we can't get anything done. Extremists have effectively hijacked the national debate. Now we are left with poor policy and a direly uninformed public. Public policy is not supposed to be based on emotion. It's based in facts and reality. The people who who frame this debate as "us vs. them" don't seem to get that point.
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