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Old 08-27-2007, 10:01 AM
 
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white people are marrying outside thier race more and more each day.

White women love to marry black and latino men.

While White men love to marry asian and latino women.

thats the problem.
This is correct. I am a white guy who married "outside my race"---(and also "outside my gender")----and I've had enormous difficulties for 37 years, but we're still best friends and still speaking to each other.
We have 3 kids and 4 grandkids, and, though of course this business of "miscegnation" does carry its share of problems, (one of our kids came out darker than the other two, and one sometimes "acts like a wild Indian"), I have traveled through some of the remoter parts of Appalachia, and I can tell you. "cegnation" isn't a cure-all, either....
Good post.....
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Old 08-27-2007, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Northeast U.S.
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Africa is not our problem. I don't see some document that says "Fair-skinned people must solve the worlds problems". Otherwise, then why don't they then simply submit back to colonization then if that's the case?
I’d say that Africa is primarily the business of Africans themselves, but that of the rest of the world as well--not just the fair-skinned. I was disputing JohnfromNY's statement that whites “ended” slavery. (Actually, he did that himself in the part I quoted.) Europeans haven’t even stamped out slavery on their own continent.

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Old 08-27-2007, 12:30 PM
 
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I’d say that Africa is primarily the business of Africans themselves, but that of the rest of the world as well--not just the fair-skinned. I was disputing JohnfromNY's statement that whites “ended” slavery. (Actually, he did that himself in the part I quoted.) Europeans haven’t even stamped out slavery on their own continent.
I don't mean that we should help them build infastructure and learn to grow food, but Africa also could get a great boost of self-esteem by pitching in more than it does. You may not realize this, but when people speak of those of color "needing to be saved", it smacks of White supremecy. Black does not equal dumb, so maybe people should also be held responsible?

Also, I want a real reputable article where anyone of any color is enslaved on the European continent (Which does not include Turkey nor Russia)
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:30 PM
 
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I don't mean that we should help them build infastructure and learn to grow food, but Africa also could get a great boost of self-esteem by pitching in more than it does. You may not realize this, but when people speak of those of color "needing to be saved", it smacks of White supremecy. Black does not equal dumb, so maybe people should also be held responsible?

Also, I want a real reputable article where anyone of any color is enslaved on the European continent (Which does not include Turkey nor Russia)
Then you need look no further than various brothels maintained in Western Europe chock full of girls from Eastern Europe who were either lured with promises of becoming an au pair, or outright chicanery and human smuggling. google it.

(I just did - is BBC reputable and credible enough for ya?)

BBC NEWS | World | Human smuggling eclipses drugs trade

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Old 08-27-2007, 01:49 PM
 
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Since when are "Latinos" necessarily non-Caucasian? Caucasian is a race. Latino is (arguably) an ethnicity.

Quite a few South American countries have majority European-descended populations.
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:55 PM
 
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Then you need look no further than various brothels maintained in Western Europe chock full of girls from Eastern Europe who were either lured with promises of becoming an au pair, or outright chicanery and human smuggling. google it.

(I just did - is BBC reputable and credible enough for ya?)

BBC NEWS | World | Human smuggling eclipses drugs trade

BBC is certainly reputable, as far as crediable, well, we won't go there...

Again, every group of people has it's demons. This isn't a pissing match between "Who's got the worst human trafficking", otherwise I could show you pictures of female circumsicion(sp?) in the Congo and South African gang rapes that would make you vomit, which is done by African men to African women and horrifies even the most harded White Afrikkaner. Then of course, there's the ongoing issue of Islamic men attacking women of every non-islamic strpie across Europe. Isn't diversity grand?

And BTW, many African Americans might take offense to what you've posted. While the horrors of sexual explotiation are horrific, they were not kidnapped, chained, beaten and had their children ripped from their own mothers like Slaves (who, also, were sometimes used as sexual tools as well). I suggest you get a grip on your racism and truly understand the impact of the word "Slavery".
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Old 08-27-2007, 02:19 PM
 
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BBC is certainly reputable, as far as crediable, well, we won't go there...

Again, every group of people has it's demons. This isn't a pissing match between "Who's got the worst human trafficking", otherwise I could show you pictures of female circumsicion(sp?) in the Congo and South African gang rapes that would make you vomit, which is done by African men to African women and horrifies even the most harded White Afrikkaner. Then of course, there's the ongoing issue of Islamic men attacking women of every non-islamic strpie across Europe. Isn't diversity grand?

And BTW, many African Americans might take offense to what you've posted. While the horrors of sexual explotiation are horrific, they were not kidnapped, chained, beaten and had their children ripped from their own mothers like Slaves (who, also, were sometimes used as sexual tools as well). I suggest you get a grip on your racism and truly understand the impact of the word "Slavery".
Where do you get off accusing me of racism? And who the heck do you think you are to "rate" the level of slavery? I'm not sure how my post possibly could have caused you to think I was starting a pi**ing match. And also, thanks for pointing out that many African Americans might take offense to what I posted - please do be their advocate, and tell me how you twisted my posting of a link to an article that has nothing to do with African Americans as being offensive to anyone.

You start pulling in all sorts of things that weren't even to do (female circumcision) with what you had asked specifically for - at least one reputable source of slavery existing in Europe. And that's what I did. Sorry if you can't deal with the fact that many girls are in fact being used as slaves in the s e x industry in Europe, but I fail to see how that is not a direct response to a question YOU posted.

I think YOU need to get a grip and a dictionary while you're at it.
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Old 08-27-2007, 03:24 PM
 
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Where do you get off accusing me of racism? And who the heck do you think you are to "rate" the level of slavery? I'm not sure how my post possibly could have caused you to think I was starting a pi**ing match. And also, thanks for pointing out that many African Americans might take offense to what I posted - please do be their advocate, and tell me how you twisted my posting of a link to an article that has nothing to do with African Americans as being offensive to anyone.

You start pulling in all sorts of things that weren't even to do (female circumcision) with what you had asked specifically for - at least one reputable source of slavery existing in Europe. And that's what I did. Sorry if you can't deal with the fact that many girls are in fact being used as slaves in the s e x industry in Europe, but I fail to see how that is not a direct response to a question YOU posted.

I think YOU need to get a grip and a dictionary while you're at it.

Sex workers != slaves. You make it sound like Europeans keep slaves. They don't. Africans, however, do. I mean you're racism against whites.
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Old 08-27-2007, 03:51 PM
 
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Please stop spinning your wheels briarwood - it has become abundantly apparent that you are not playing with a full deck. I will not try to convince you of anything because apparently you think that someone who is held against their will and forced to work as a prostitute cannot be a slave.

Please look up the word slave, and understand it comes from slav - those same white people as you have mentioned that I am somehow racist against. I happen to be of slavic origin, so I guess I am not only a racist against whites, but I am also somehow a self-loather.

There should be a way of weeding out posters who try to engage in a debate of thoughts and ideas and are coming into battle unarmed. I hope you look into getting some treatment, there are actually medications for your condition.
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Old 08-28-2007, 02:27 AM
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Please calm down and get back on topic, please.
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