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Old 09-18-2008, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Your answer is silly. Look around you. If there were no USA, Australia, Canada or Western Europe, where would you pick to live? That's what the world will be like when we are gone. Caucasians have killed themsleves thanks to contraception and aborion. The only major ethnic group to decide to eliminate itself. And just in case you have seen recent claims by certain countires that their birth rates HAVE GONE UP, yea, they have. Immigrants are where the babies are coming from. The white race is history. So are the wonderful contributions it has given to ordinary people such as personal freedom, compassionate laws, and open societies. Five thouands years shot to hell belcause women have chosen a right not to have babies. They forgot, no babies - no adults later. Fools.
You need to add American Blacks, citizens of Japan, Iran, etc. to your list of declining populations---------any culture with a birthrate below 2.1 children per woman cannot maintain replacement level.

It is not just a Euro White thing.

And Latin America as a whole is skidding towards replacement level as well--------Mexico in particular has plummeted from 7.3 children per woman (1962) to under 2.4 in 2007.

Add China to the list of below replacement birthrate nations as well.................
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Old 11-04-2008, 08:44 AM
 
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Israel was created (or recreated) after World War II in order to provide the Jews a "homeland" of their own. From what I understand, it was determined that being a minority in other countries where Jews were not a majority (all of them) was bad for their existence. And please, no Nazi genocide comments. One reason was the intermarriage of Jews with non-Jews. And the belief was that the "religion" would some day become extinct. It (the Jewish faith) needed to be preserved, and one way to accomplish that was to create a Jew-majority/only country. I also understand that Israel, to some extent is extremely Jewish biased...meaning prejudicial laws against Muslims and Christians for example. And it's justified by stating..."hey, that was the whole reason for creating Israel!". So.....why don't all those "white" countries who carved out Israel for the Jews, carve out a country for caucasians, and allow them to set up prejudicial laws that ban non-caucasians from immigrating so they can prevent their own extinction???
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Old 11-04-2008, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Israel was created (or recreated) after World War II in order to provide the Jews a "homeland" of their own. From what I understand, it was determined that being a minority in other countries where Jews were not a majority (all of them) was bad for their existence. And please, no Nazi genocide comments. One reason was the intermarriage of Jews with non-Jews. And the belief was that the "religion" would some day become extinct. It (the Jewish faith) needed to be preserved, and one way to accomplish that was to create a Jew-majority/only country. I also understand that Israel, to some extent is extremely Jewish biased...meaning prejudicial laws against Muslims and Christians for example. And it's justified by stating..."hey, that was the whole reason for creating Israel!". So.....why don't all those "white" countries who carved out Israel for the Jews, carve out a country for caucasians, and allow them to set up prejudicial laws that ban non-caucasians from immigrating so they can prevent their own extinction???
Apples and oranges here:

Judaism is a religion, not a race/ethnicity.

And: White/Caucasion people run the gamut in skin tone from 'caramel' to 'white-white'.
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Old 11-05-2008, 03:18 PM
 
Location: The Queen City
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The way I see it there are only a few predominantly caucasian places. The USA, Canada, Europe and Australia among them. The one thing all these caucasian countrys have in common is that non caucasians are immigrating to these places. You don't see caucasians immigrating to places like Korea, India, or Central America in the numbers that come here. We all know there here for one reason...our money.

The problem I have is that Koreans can go back to Korea and be with there own kind, so can Indians and Mexican and so on.

Where will caucasians have to go if something isn't done about immigration?

Could you imagin what would happen if China became a free society and opened up the floodgates?.....Game over folks
What makes you think that Chinese want to come here? Have you been to Shanghai, Hong Kong, Beijing or Guangzhou? Those cities are light years ahead of us.

By the way, most European coutries are caucasian, and they won't stop being that way in 50 years. Furthermore, I am not sure what you consider a caucasian. All Europeans are caucasian, so are most Asians (Russians, Armenians, Uzbekistani, etc.) Caucasian is just an ideology. There is no such thing as a white race. If you are comparing skin colors, then Chinese, Japanese and Koreans are the true white people.
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Old 11-05-2008, 03:21 PM
 
Location: The Queen City
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Apples and oranges here:

Judaism is a religion, not a race/ethnicity.

And: White/Caucasion people run the gamut in skin tone from 'caramel' to 'white-white'.
Now if you would only understand that Hispanics/latinos are not a race. We are a culture. Divided into many DIFFERENT cultures.
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Old 11-05-2008, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Now if you would only understand that Hispanics/latinos are not a race. We are a culture. Divided into many DIFFERENT cultures.
More a political label than anything else.

Jose Gonzalez; the Swedish born/raised musician would not count as 'Hispanic'. Neither would Felipe Fernandez-Armesto, the English university professor.
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Old 11-05-2008, 03:42 PM
 
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More a political label than anything else.

Jose Gonzalez; the Swedish born/raised musician would not count as 'Hispanic'. Neither would Felipe Fernandez-Armesto, the English university professor.
Democratic, Republican, Socialist, are all political labels.

Hispanic is a culture, and to a lesser extent, a geographical term.
Much like "Latin" is.
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Old 11-05-2008, 04:44 PM
 
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Democratic, Republican, Socialist, are all political labels.

Hispanic is a culture, and to a lesser extent, a geographical term.
Much like "Latin" is.
I knew a 'Mexican' American family back east: they were Presbyterians, did not speak Spanish nor even knew what Mexican food was---------and, had a Scots-Irish surname (prefix Mc). Their culture was definitely not Hispanic but were Mestizos..............probably part Yaqui Indian heritage from northern Mexico a couple of generations back.
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Old 11-05-2008, 04:49 PM
 
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I knew a 'Mexican' American family back east: they were Presbyterians, did not speak Spanish nor even knew what Mexican food was---------and, had a Scots-Irish surname (prefix Mc). Their culture was definitely not Hispanic.
That's awesome.

I know a lot of people who are of German descent, and don't know much about German cuisine or German folk music. They are American, but ethnically German.

If the family you "know", are descended from Spaniards who settled in Latin America, and the Natives who originated in Latin America, they are still ethnically Hispanic.
At least enough for them to identify themselves to you as "Mexican".

Just like if a Black person is descended from people who have roots in Latin America, he is considered "Latino", ethnically.

You seem to be trying to downplay Hispanic identity. I wonder what you get out of that.
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Old 11-05-2008, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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That's awesome.

I know a lot of people who are of German descent, and don't know much about German cuisine or German folk music. They are American, but ethnically German.

If the family you "know", are descended from Spaniards who settled in Latin America, and the Natives who originated in Latin America, they are still ethnically Hispanic.
At least enough for them to identify themselves to you as "Mexican".

Just like if a Black person is descended from people who have roots in Latin America, he is considered "Latino", ethnically.

You seem to be trying to downplay Hispanic identity. I wonder what you get out of that.
I play up being an unhyphenated American.
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