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Interesting how so much indignation is leveled at AA itself, and not the conditions that warranted its implementation in the first place.
I think that the passage of time might contribute significantly to the objection many folks have to Affirmative Action. The baseline problem sort of becomes less of an issue as more opportunities are provided to subsequent generations.
My own personal point of view (which may anger some of you) is that I favor Affirmative Action as a specific tool to assist folks who have been treated improperly by society, with fixed targeted remedies. However, I think that it should be set up with very rigorous critical reviews every 10 years, with a modification of the protections provided under Affirmative Action as the disadvantaged group is better integrated as a postive contributor to society.
I think that the passage of time might contribute significantly to the objection many folks have to Affirmative Action. The baseline problem sort of becomes less of an issue as more opportunities are provided to subsequent generations.
My own personal point of view (which may anger some of you) is that I favor Affirmative Action as a specific tool to assist folks who have been treated improperly by society, with fixed targeted remedies. However, I think that it should be set up with very rigorous critical reviews every 10 years, with a modification of the protections provided under Affirmative Action as the disadvantaged group is better integrated as a postive contributor to society.
When somebody first sets foot in the U.S., how is it they've been improperly treated? If anything, shouldn't they be grateful they were admitted to the U.S. in the first place?
ONLY blacks should ever get affirmative action (if at all. Personally, I think economic status should count, not race or ethnicity, but that's a whole different thread).
Affirmative action is meant to correct past wrongs. ALL other immigrants come here on their own volition, and cannot and should not expect affirmative action.
Plus, AA for "hispanics" is patently unfair, since being "hispanic" doesn't signal anything about what your ACTUAL background, experience, appearance, or race is.
Uh...what about women? We've been wronged too, and we're still being wronged (along with blacks).
When somebody first sets foot in the U.S., how is it they've been improperly treated? If anything, shouldn't they be grateful they were admitted to the U.S. in the first place?
My reference is to Affirmative Action itelf, not who is included. I'll let the Legislative Branch identify those parameters.
Interesting how so much indignation is leveled at AA itself, and not the conditions that warranted its implementation in the first place.
As I've said before, I think any reasonable person can understand that America owes a moral debt to blacks, which it's our duty to honor, within certain limits and "checks" (as NewToCA has suggested)---American Indians, obviously, also. Mexicans? That's a stretch, but OK, we "took" part of their land, so let's at least listen to their case.
But as for the REST of the world, I fail to see how they qualify for our American "AA" benefits---I just don't get it. What sort of historic debt do we owe these people?
That's because AA still exists when in fact it's no longer needed. One should have indignation for injustices. Currently AA is an injustice.
Well at least you admit that it was needed at one time. Pardon my disingenuousness, but I'm curious to know why you think AA is no longer needed. Do the conditions that contributed to the formation of AA still exist?
As I've said before, I think any reasonable person can understand that America owes a moral debt to blacks, which it's our duty to honor, within certain limits and "checks" (as NewToCA has suggested)---American Indians, obviously, also. Mexicans? That's a stretch, but OK, we "took" part of their land, so let's at least listen to their case.
But as for the REST of the world, I fail to see how they qualify for our American "AA" benefits---I just don't get it. What sort of historic debt do we owe these people?
Agreed. AA should only seek to redress the country's self-generated condition of systematized exclusion of specific social groups with a self-perpetuating and self-governing "counter" condition of systematized inclusion of those groups. Only makes since.
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