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[GregHenry]

Originally Posted by msamhunter

When people talk about Chicago, they are not really talking about Lake Forest, Cicero or any other suburb, they are talking about the City of Chicago.

When people talk about living in Chicago, they almost never are talking about something inside the city limits. "Chicago" means everything from Kenosha to Michigan City, from the Lake to Aurora. Lake Forest is Chicago. Cicero is Chicago.

The city name is used as a rough guide to distinguish Chicago from Denver and to check your weather on the Weather Channel. A city name almost always means MSA.

[msamhunter]

Originally Posted by GregHenry

When people talk about living in Chicago, they almost never are talking about something inside the city limits. "Chicago" means everything from Kenosha to Michigan City, from the Lake to Aurora. Lake Forest is Chicago. Cicero is Chicago.

The city name is used as a rough guide to distinguish Chicago from Denver and to check your weather on the Weather Channel. A city name almost always means MSA.

Have u ever been a resident? No well i have, there's a difference

[artemis]

I have too. And most would agree with the Chicago description for the burbs.

Whether it's Wheeling, Lake Forest or Buffalo Grove, people I know just say Chicago.

[pontiac51]

Originally Posted by GregHenry

When people talk about living in Chicago, they almost never are talking about something inside the city limits. "Chicago" means everything from Kenosha to Michigan City, from the Lake to Aurora. Lake Forest is Chicago. Cicero is Chicago.

The city name is used as a rough guide to distinguish Chicago from Denver and to check your weather on the Weather Channel. A city name almost always means MSA.

First of all, like I stated earlier, MSA's are just as useless as city boundaries because of the difference in sq. miles in the nation's counties. Second of all, Michigan City is part of the CSA, not the MSA. And third of all, people from Kenosha probably identify with Milwaukee more than Chicago. Kenosha and Milwaukee are obviously in the same state, only 30 miles apart. Chicago is 65 miles from Kenosha. This is another example of why MSA's are a useless way to compare city/metro populations.

[GregHenry]

Originally Posted by artemis

I have too. And most would agree with the Chicago description for the burbs.

Whether it's Wheeling, Lake Forest or Buffalo Grove, people I know just say Chicago.

Of course they do. MSAM is grossly unfamiliar with this essential bit of Chicago culture.

Originally Posted by pontiac51

This is another example of why MSA's are a useless way to compare city/metro populations.

Let it go. That argument doesn't play.

[msamhunter]

Originally Posted by GregHenry

Of course they do. MSAM is grossly unfamiliar with this essential bit of Chicago culture.



Let it go. That argument doesn't play.

Of course not, 20 years doesn't account for anything.

[GregHenry]

Originally Posted by msamhunter

Of course not, 20 years doesn't account for anything.

I have a difficult time believing you've ever stayed in a hotel room outside the city limits of Chicago, much less lived there.

It's well known to every Chicagoan that everyone in the municipalities just says "Chicago."

Also as I stated earlier in which you agreed with, no one cares about a suburb.

Also, as you were told by someone else in an earlier post, in many places, the distinction of "city" and "suburb" is often meaningless. All the municipalities in an area need to be taken as a whole, and for convenience sake, the name of the most notable municipality becomes the name of the entire area. In many or most cities, a metro area will lose most of its significance and importance if only the name city is examined.

Every time you say that Indy's bigger than Atlanta, Boston or San Francisco you just look like a cheerleader desperately trying to make yourself look more important than you actually are.

And the next time you say "nobody cares about a suburb," take a look at Beverly Hills, Hollywood, LaJolla, Minneapolis, Skokie, Oakbrook, Barrington, Schaumburg, Kenilworth, Tacoma, Mercer Island, Bellevue, Oakland, Berkeley, Palo Alto, Scottsdale, Mesa, Fort Worth, St. Petersburg, Clearwater, Ft. Lauderdale, Boca Raton, Buckhead, Marietta, Roswell, Durham, Virginia Beach, Arlington, Alexandria, Silver Springs, Rockville, Wilmington, Newark, Jersey City, Yonkers, White Plains, the Hamptons, you get the idea; start adding your own.

[Toxic Toast]

Originally Posted by GregHenry

Every time you say that Indy's bigger than Atlanta, Boston or San Francisco you just look like a cheerleader desperately trying to make yourself look more important than you actually are.

It depends on the context. Saying Indianapolis is the 12th biggest city in the county is a fact. We've been over this. There is NOTHING you can do to make it untrue.

I can give you an example of when saying Indianapolis is the 12th biggest city in the country is used in error. On facebook, there are people losing their mind because the "12th biggest city in America can't sell out a Colts game." Well, Indianapolis may be the 12th biggest city in America, but as a media market it ranks in the 30s. using city population in the context of media markets is silly. So is someone getting worked up on an internet forum about Indianapolis even being the 12th biggest city in the USA.

[GregHenry]

Originally Posted by Toxic Toast

It depends on the context.

There is no "context." Atlanta's bigger than Indy. End of story.

Try driving through both of them if you're still confused.

[Toxic Toast]

Originally Posted by GregHenry

There is no "context." Atlanta's bigger than Indy. End of story.

Try driving through both of them if you're still confused.

Atlanta's metro is bigger than Indianapolis, more than double in fact. You are correct if that is what you are getting at.

That doesn't change the fact that Indianapolis has a city population bigger than the city of Atlanta. That is a FACT. Whether that is an important fact or not is not the point. I am simply pointing out that it is a FACT. I don't have small penis syndrome, so it doesn't really matter to me whether Indianapolis has a bigger or smaller city pop than ATL or wherever.