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They're already doing this. The MTA already has a third track for the main line in its next funding cycle. East Side Access, an enormous investment, will primarily benefit Long Islanders, and should allow huge increases in commuting capacity to Manhattan.
No offense, but you are playing exactly the NIMBY playbook. You're trying to come up with any possible reason why Long Island has no choice but to stagnate. If someone says we need new housing, you'll say the trains can't handle it. If the trains get improved, you'll say there are too many trains and ruining the peace and quiet, and a waste of money. If they cut the trains so less waste you'll go back to saying it's too crowded.
The MTA is spending $10 billion on East Side Access but apparently it's not enough, or too much, or who knows. It's much easier to nitpick and complain and do nothing than to be productive and find solutions.
Lol. There's a catch with that third track if you read the details carefully. It's purpose is to provide express service to rush hour commuters coming FROM nyc TO jobs in LI. It does not help those who need to commute to nyc from LI. If the spade hits the ground tomorrow, it will take 20+ years to build anyway so it does not matter.
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And if we know anything, we know this is absolutely not true.
The biggest mistake would be to assume that future generations would have the same preferences as past generations, especially when we have a mountain of data showing they do NOT want sprawl.
Yeah, say that when Murry bergtraum matches the performance of jericho high so your mountain of data can finally prove that preferences translate to actual decisions. Until then I'll believe it when I see it.
Lol. There's a catch with that third track if you read the details carefully. It's purpose is to provide express service to rush hour commuters coming FROM nyc TO jobs in LI. It does not help those who need to commute to nyc from LI.
That's true, but it should help ease congestion in the peak direction as a result. It's a good project, all in all.
Then jobs in Melville, Hauppauge and stony brook aren't particularly attractive to millenials to begin with. They don't offer that kind of fast trajectory that someone in his 20s to mid 30s would need to become professionally established, before they buy a home in the burbs. Local employers complain they can't match the salaries or entry level job descriptions in nyc. Given the lack of livelihood opportunities, there is no reason for them to move to Dix hills or Smithtown until they become mid managers at which point they are ready to buy single family homes.
Maybe, maybe not. Undoubtedly there are millenials at those firms now, not to mention small businesses, construction, etc. We're officially the biggest living generation. Bottom line is that there is a certain degree of demand that can and should be accomodated. Rebuild the whole island? Of course not!
Maybe, maybe not. Undoubtedly there are millenials at those firms now, not to mention small businesses, construction, etc. We're officially the biggest living generation. Bottom line is that there is a certain degree of demand that can and should be accomodated. Rebuild the whole island? Of course not!
If there are, they are not enough to form a critical mass. So why upend zoning laws en masse for their benefit? They can always rent in Patchogue or farmingdale if they need a place to stay.
And if there were more jobs for young professionals, it would be sustainable. But there has been a decrease in these types of jobs nationally and even more so on Long Island as we have lost the big businesses that helped to create and sustain the Long Island population. We do have many low paying service jobs and much part-time employment.
I don't disagree with you on this point. Long Island has lost a disturbing amount of good companies offering well paying jobs. However, there are still thousands of people making a good living on Long Island, employing millenials. Not to mention small business, construction, etc. Who really knows what the future holds.
That's not how real estate investment decisions are made. If developers build where there is insufficient demand, you end up with Coney's situation where units are not occupied and promised amenities not delivered. It hurts both the developer and the surrounding community esp. if the owners fall behind with the upkeep. Good developers want to see proof of demand before they sink their money into something. Look at how companies are tripping all over themselves to build new condominiums in williamsburg.
If there are, they are not enough to form a critical mass. So why upend zoning laws en masse for their benefit? They can always rent in Patchogue or farmingdale if they need a place to stay.
First of all how do you know? Second of all, those places in Farmingdale and Patchauge are exactly what I'm talking about - nothing nuts. For one thing, I'd like to see some better use of Valley Stream's downtown.
Why cant they live in other houses? There are many many houses in long island and mostly they are better bedcause you can have a backyard and there are even farms in suffolk county, ny but a lt of people dont know it. In new yourk city they mostly have apartments and the people dont want to live there? They could but they want to build many family apartments in long island? Why do they do it?
It's good that more people think Suffolk County Ny is nothing but farms, Camaros, and freedom rock. Otherwise Suffolk County Ny would be just like Nassau County Ny.
It's better this way for the people in Suffolk County Ny.
Many people are afraid because they think Suffolk County Ny is still all bikers and bungalows.
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