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Old 02-25-2009, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Little Babylon
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It reaches it's threshold, easily, so, it's not a hard strategy to make a generous profit on...especially in these times.

There are name brands being sold there, unlike sub-par, dollar stores.

Competition benefits everyone.
Name brand, but what part of the line? Are they selling the same clothes that you'd find in Macy's or the stuff they sell to poorer countries? Take a guess.
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Old 02-25-2009, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Miller Place NY
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Name brand, but what part of the line? Are they selling the same clothes that you'd find in Macy's or the stuff they sell to poorer countries? Take a guess.
It's like anything else...you have to go shop at other places, for certain things.

It's a scam, but it's what people HAVE to do.
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Old 02-25-2009, 12:25 PM
 
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Welcome to the evolution of an industrialized world. If you are in a business that deals in commodities you cannot compete if you do not have a cost model on the same playing field as your competion. This goes for retailers or dairy farmers.

Wal-Mart excels at controlling cots, vendors give their first born to have their products sold at Wal-Mart, a mom and pop gets no such discounting. Wal-Mart can also afford to operate with razor thin margins, a family business would fold, not enough revenue.

Corporate farms can harvest more milk per cow at a lower cost than a family farm, better equipment and lower costs. Not a level playing field. The corporation can sell the milk at margins unsustainable for a family farm.

Many CEO's and business owners face hard choices. If your competitor has factories and a labor pool off-shore and can make a paper clip similar to the one you market for half the price, and sell it for what it costs you to make. Do you farm your labor and warehousing to China or Mexico or do you fold the business? Who will buy your brand paper clips when the ones made by your competition are much cheaper?

Paper clips or cattle, it's the same principle with commodities. Price is the key driver for sales, if you cannot offer a competitive price your business will eventually fail.

I don't like it, but also don't think it's reversible. How long do you boycott the Model T dealer for putting your local buggy whip maker out of business?
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Old 02-25-2009, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Miller Place NY
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Welcome to the evolution of an industrialized world. If you are in a business that deals in commodities you cannot compete if you do not have a cost model on the same playing field as your competion. This goes for retailers or dairy farmers.

Wal-Mart excels at controlling cots, vendors give their first born to have their products sold at Wal-Mart, a mom and pop gets no such discounting. Wal-Mart can also afford to operate with razor thin margins, a family business would fold, not enough revenue.

Corporate farms can harvest more milk per cow at a lower cost than a family farm, better equipment and lower costs. Not a level playing field. The corporation can sell the milk at margins unsustainable for a family farm.

Many CEO's and business owners face hard choices. If your competitor has factories and a labor pool off-shore and can make a paper clip similar to the one you market for half the price, and sell it for what it costs you to make. Do you farm your labor and warehousing to China or Mexico or do you fold the business? Who will buy your brand paper clips when the ones made by your competition are much cheaper?

Paper clips or cattle, it's the same principle with commodities. Price is the key driver for sales, if you cannot offer a competitive price your business will eventually fail.

I don't like it, but also don't think it's reversible. How long do you boycott the Model T dealer for putting your local buggy whip maker out of business?

In a country, where EVERYONE seems to have their hand out, and where "old" words like "competition" are NOT welcome, someday, places like Wal Mart will be appreciated a little more.
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Old 02-25-2009, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Little Babylon
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It's like anything else...you have to go shop at other places, for certain things.

It's a scam, but it's what people HAVE to do.
That's competition.
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Old 02-25-2009, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Miller Place NY
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That's competition.
Yes.

Non-socially engineered, competition.

A half BILLION dollars into the Island "ain't hay" !

Ignoring them, is silly.

ANYONE can fight them in the marketplace, if they want to !
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Old 02-25-2009, 12:53 PM
 
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Name brand, but what part of the line? Are they selling the same clothes that you'd find in Macy's or the stuff they sell to poorer countries? Take a guess.
HA! Who do you think you are? the scam is comments like yours.

if you want macy's quality clothes, go to macy's! you can't expect macy's quality often couture like blue-jeans for walmart 15 bucks a pair prices.

Get real! Admit you are just cheap and a scammer. scammers are the hidden people who aren't honest about their real motivations. You want walmart prices for extraordinary quality. who doesn't?

and i resent you calling all their clothes for "poorer" countries. to be totally honest, it means you aren't very intelligent as well. they are decent clothes to very good, just doesn't have that name-brand label attached to it. there is often little to no difference in the stitching and expensive clothes can tear and stain just like any other. WAKE UP! talk about being a scammer and scammed. LMAO

also, kmart has a brand i occasionally buy called route-66. it's pretty good.
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Old 02-25-2009, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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In a country, where EVERYONE seems to have their hand out, and where "old" words like "competition" are NOT welcome, someday, places like Wal Mart will be appreciated a little more.

Soon enough the big box stores will have eliminated the local merchants. They've already started eating their bigger competition -- buh-bye Linens and Things, Circuit City, etc...

How soon until there is no competition whatsoever and we have one large nationally run corporation? Buy-N-Large was the name of the mega corporation in the Pixar movie, WALL-E. I wonder what company they were satirizing....
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Old 02-25-2009, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Miller Place NY
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Soon enough the big box stores will have eliminated the local merchants. They've already started eating their bigger competition -- buh-bye Linens and Things, Circuit City, etc...

How soon until there is no competition whatsoever and we have one large nationally run corporation? Buy-N-Large was the name of the mega corporation in the Pixar movie, WALL-E. I wonder what company they were satirizing....
It's the Law of the Jungle and it's worked, just FINE, before.
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Old 02-25-2009, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Miller Place NY
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HA! Who do you think you are? the scam is comments like yours.

if you want macy's quality clothes, go to macy's! you can't expect macy's quality often couture like blue-jeans for walmart 15 bucks a pair prices.

Get real! Admit you are just cheap and a scammer. scammers are the hidden people who aren't honest about their real motivations. You want walmart prices for extraordinary quality. who doesn't?

and i resent you calling all their clothes for "poorer" countries. to be totally honest, it means you aren't very intelligent as well. they are decent clothes to very good, just doesn't have that name-brand label attached to it. there is often little to no difference in the stitching and expensive clothes can tear and stain just like any other. WAKE UP! talk about being a scammer and scammed. LMAO

also, kmart has a brand i occasionally buy called route-66. it's pretty good.

I don't think MOST people, REALLY CARE, where there clothing comes from.

It's an affectation of people who can afford, to be that discerning, or the subject just doesn't move them.
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