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Old 05-27-2016, 06:07 PM
 
Location: South LA
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The cycle of gentrification in most urban areas usually follows this pattern:

1. -- Hood Rat-infested ghetto neighborhoods become full of blight and crime and "food deserts", pawn shops, strip mall churches, wig stores, liquor stores and nail salons.

2. -- Latino/Asian Immigrants move in, bring in small mom-&-pop shops and tasty restaurants, taquerias, lavenderias, ethnic markets, etc.

3. -- The first gays and artists begin to move in and then Starbucks, Trader Joes, Corporate bank branches and PetSmart follow.

4. -- More and more gays and artists follow, bringing wine bars, florists, used book stores and art galleries and a weekly farmer's market.

5. -- the metrosexual Hipsters move in from suburbia wanting an "urban experience", usually bringing with them a brew pub or two, hobby stores and university extensions.

6. -- Noting the rising property values, better schools and demographics, the Rich Bastards start showing up and buying apartments, turning them into condominiums, and then marketing them to Yuppies and Rich Immigrants and Investors.

7. -- Federal government and county housing authorities start getting complaints about "housing discrimination" and begin investigating. They find that the area in question is now "too white", "too prosperous" and that too many wealthy people live there, so they build low-income housing.

8. -- More Hood Rats start to show up to take advantage of the housing quotas, test scores drop in nearby schools, burglaries begin to occur and 'For Sale' signs begin to sprout here and there.

9. -- A full-scale mass exodus of the wealthy, the artists, the gays and the children of immigrants begins. Condominiums are rented out as apartments, boutique shops begin to close and become replaced by smoke shops, liquor stores and payday loan centers. The farmer's market becomes less about produce and more about booths for social service providers and crime prevention.

10. -- Bank branches close for fear of being robbed, houses get rented out to Section 8 voucher holders, crime goes up, bars go up on windows of the last remaining businesses, test scores at local schools continue to plummet and people in pajamas at 1:00 p.m. begin fighting at bus stops. Soon will come the strip mall churches, pawn shops, liquor stores, wig stores and nail salons.
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Old 05-27-2016, 06:12 PM
 
Location: South LA
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Yeah it was weird...I drove past some neighborhoods that could pass for some westside neighborhoods.

Its sad because some neighborhoods, even in the best parts of South LA, get overlooked for historical reasons. Like, Ladera Heights could obviously support a Trader Joes, but beacuase of skin pigimitation we are presposed to writing off particular neighborhoods. Parts of Mid City remind of this too. Super nice houses--designed by the most famous architects and have wealthy families but will not get play becuase of the reputation of the neighborhood. Sad, but I think it can change and I am optimistic.
I agree with you. Unfortunately, TJs bases their store locations on the percentage of residents with at least bachelors' degrees. This is one huge reason they still haven't put a store in my hometown back east (too blue collar).
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Old 05-27-2016, 06:19 PM
 
Location: South LA
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Maybe, hard to say. L.A is such a big city that it would be hard to imagine.
Neighborhoods are also constantly in flux.
As we have seen, areas that were once considered very nice then went downhill , and some are coming back again now.
Just because an area is considered a nice area today doesn't mean that same area will be nice looking 10,20 years into the future.
Just like with entire cities. Detroit used to be the wealthiest city in America! It was also #4 in population in the 1960s..now it's place has been taken by Houston,Tx as #4.

It would be easier for SF to be entirely gentrified because it's a much smaller city versus L.A

We don't have any big cities that are totally gentrified in the country, so I would be surprised if it happens in the future. But you never know!
New York is getting there.
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Old 05-27-2016, 07:41 PM
 
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New York is getting there.
Not quite though, huge swaths of the city aren't gentrified
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Old 05-27-2016, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Laguna Niguel, Orange County CA
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Originally Posted by kttam186290 View Post
The cycle of gentrification in most urban areas usually follows this pattern:

1. -- Hood Rat-infested ghetto neighborhoods become full of blight and crime and "food deserts", pawn shops, strip mall churches, wig stores, liquor stores and nail salons.

2. -- Latino/Asian Immigrants move in, bring in small mom-&-pop shops and tasty restaurants, taquerias, lavenderias, ethnic markets, etc.

3. -- The first gays and artists begin to move in and then Starbucks, Trader Joes, Corporate bank branches and PetSmart follow.

4. -- More and more gays and artists follow, bringing wine bars, florists, used book stores and art galleries and a weekly farmer's market.

5. -- the metrosexual Hipsters move in from suburbia wanting an "urban experience", usually bringing with them a brew pub or two, hobby stores and university extensions.

6. -- Noting the rising property values, better schools and demographics, the Rich Bastards start showing up and buying apartments, turning them into condominiums, and then marketing them to Yuppies and Rich Immigrants and Investors.

7. -- Federal government and county housing authorities start getting complaints about "housing discrimination" and begin investigating. They find that the area in question is now "too white", "too prosperous" and that too many wealthy people live there, so they build low-income housing.

8. -- More Hood Rats start to show up to take advantage of the housing quotas, test scores drop in nearby schools, burglaries begin to occur and 'For Sale' signs begin to sprout here and there.

9. -- A full-scale mass exodus of the wealthy, the artists, the gays and the children of immigrants begins. Condominiums are rented out as apartments, boutique shops begin to close and become replaced by smoke shops, liquor stores and payday loan centers. The farmer's market becomes less about produce and more about booths for social service providers and crime prevention.

10. -- Bank branches close for fear of being robbed, houses get rented out to Section 8 voucher holders, crime goes up, bars go up on windows of the last remaining businesses, test scores at local schools continue to plummet and people in pajamas at 1:00 p.m. begin fighting at bus stops. Soon will come the strip mall churches, pawn shops, liquor stores, wig stores and nail salons.
OMG. This is the most hilarious post I have ever seen! Some of it might be tongue in cheek, but come on, there is some truth in here.
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Old 05-27-2016, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Earth
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OMG. This is the most hilarious post I have ever seen! Some of it might be tongue in cheek, but come on, there is some truth in here.
More Chicago than L.A.
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Old 05-27-2016, 11:23 PM
 
Location: Unplugged from the matrix
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OMG. This is the most hilarious post I have ever seen! Some of it might be tongue in cheek, but come on, there is some truth in here.
Not really. It doesn't happen in "most" urban areas. Places gentrify based on location and amenities, not because Latino immigrants live there.
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Old 05-31-2016, 12:12 AM
 
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OMG. This is the most hilarious post I have ever seen! Some of it might be tongue in cheek, but come on, there is some truth in here.
It's the circle of life... Nothing but truth there...

The Rich bastards he refers to are just older people who have seen the pattern repeat itself many times and take advantage of it. Saving the world is a waste of time, believe me..
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Old 10-26-2016, 08:19 PM
 
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Rams heat up Inglewood's real estate market - LA Times
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Old 10-26-2016, 08:26 PM
 
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Over 80 percent of planned new development is near or next to transit...
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