The Los Angeles Homeless Containment Thread (low income, income, living)

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by Finper

Everybody that wants help can get help.

lol and where does that happen, in LA where there are enough shelter beds for 1/3 of the unsheltered homeless?

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

lol and where does that happen, in LA where there are enough shelter beds for 1/3 of the unsheltered homeless?

Well 1/3 would be 33 1/3% and about 25% are drug addicted, mentally ill or like the lifestyle. So they don't want shelter with rules that interfere with what they want to do. The remaining % also include alcoholics, thieves who like being homeless knowing they will not be punished in CA so they probably make up the balance. Now for the remaining 2/3.



No, there are not enough shelters even for those who are not such people. LA does not do much intelligently to help. Politicians spend a lot on research and consulting with the friends/supporters, but nothing much to find them low cost places to live, like I believe it was Modesto or one Central Valley city has. You hear of huge amounts of money set aside for them, but nothing much gets spent actually helping anyone in need.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by expatCA

Well 1/3 would be 33 1/3% and about 25% are drug addicted, mentally ill or like the lifestyle. So they don't want shelter with rules that interfere with what they want to do. The remaining % also include alcoholics, thieves who like being homeless knowing they will not be punished in CA so they probably make up the balance. Now for the remaining 2/3.

No, there are not enough shelters even for those who are not such people. LA does not do much intelligently to help. Politicians spend a lot on research and consulting with the friends/supporters, but nothing much to find them low cost places to live, like I believe it was Modesto or one Central Valley city has. You hear of huge amounts of money set aside for them, but nothing much gets spent actually helping anyone in need.

I think it's hard to say how many homeless would refuse shelter if it were available, and I guess we won't know until there are adequate shelter beds for them to turn down. In Salt Lake City they found that 10% of the homeless refused services including shelter.

And I agree with your second sentence, Sacramento is a mess too all they do is talk about building shelters and then fight over where they will go because no one wants a shelter near where they live.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by Finper

just stop ...... people that get cancer don't have to live in a pup tent . Everybody that wants help can get help. People that have solid relationships, don't become addicts, follow the rules of society and the law, have a logical mind will get themselves help and continue to live their lives.


Nice try though...

Finper, this thread is packed with examples of people who lost their room, apartment, house to medical bills. Packed. No, there isn’t help for everybody. Not everybody has “solid relationships.” And many that do won’t accept being a burden. Again, this thread has delivered many examples of just that. There are also one helluva lot of poor folks whose kids and other relatives are also poor. Or dead.

You clearly have led a seriously sheltered existence there in Orange County working for and inheriting your father’s business.

[V8 Vega]

Garcetti says the homeless didn't start the Getty fire but we all know he will do anything to protect his sacred cow, the homeless.

[delunsa]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Finper, this thread is packed with examples of people who lost their room, apartment, house to medical bills. Packed. No, there isn’t help for everybody. Not everybody has “solid relationships.” And many that do won’t accept being a burden. Again, this thread has delivered many examples of just that. There are also one helluva lot of poor folks whose kids and other relatives are also poor. Or dead.

You clearly have led a seriously sheltered existence there in Orange County working for and inheriting your father’s business.

Sure, some people wind up homeless through bad luck, but most are on the streets due to bad choices.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by delunsa

most are on the streets due to bad choices.

Please read this thread. We're not going to post yet ANOTHER refutation to that myth.

[delunsa]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

Please read this thread. We're not going to post yet ANOTHER refutation to that myth.

No, it's 784 pages.


You can refute all you want, it doesn't change fact.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by delunsa

No, it's 784 pages.

You can refute all you want, it doesn't change fact.

It's your opinion, you mean.

[delunsa]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

It's your opinion, you mean.

You have your opinion, I have fact.