The Los Angeles Homeless Containment Thread (Long Beach, Santa Ana: interstate, congestion, ambulance)

[JohnG72]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

Denver's attempt:

"In Denver, Colorado, the (homeless) problem has grown in pace with national trends, with one local study showing that at least 5,755 homeless people reside in the Mile High City.

So when a Quality Inn and Suites located on a major road went up for sale, the president of the Colorado Coalition for the Homeless (CCH) saw the perfect opportunity to turn the former hotel into a place where unhoused residents could rebuild their lives."

Denver Nonprofit Buys Hotel, Transforms It Into 139 Mini-Apartments for the Homeless:
https://themindunleashed.com/2020/02..._W5G_eYGH65jI8

Understand DENVER is at a number where you can possibly conceive that 139 units can make a dent(btw I don’t think that actually solves anything but for purposes of our discussion,anything that actually removes homeless from the streets is A Ok with me).

However, with a population about 5 1/2 times Denver’s, we have around 12 times the homeless population they do. So on a per capita basis, roughly twice as bad(and really probably more so)

Worse yet, the more relaxed we make it, the more benefits we offer, the more that will come.

And worst of all, our local government sucks really bad and is on the verge of largely squandering 1 billion dollars of money voters approved for housing the homeless. That’s a downright disgrace.

In short, back to the drawing board.

[Finper]

https://youtu.be/gCQlkRkTet4 A must watch even though it’s Fox

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by Finper

https://youtu.be/gCQlkRkTet4 A must watch even though it’s Fox

So the expert, Adam Carolla has decided that cops make a decision to arrest someone based on how much money they have, and the more money the more apt they are to get cited/arrested? In a sense he's right but he has it completely backwards. Some cops are intimidated by money and they are less likely to pull over someone driving a Maserati than a Honda. Why? Because they know that the wealthiest citizens have the money to make their lives hell by filing lawsuits against the cop, filing discrimination or harassment claims, etc. Whereas the 20 year old who works at Taco Bell and is driving his 99 Toyota sedan home won't cause any problems for the cop at all so he's fair game and stands a good chance of being pulled over for some silly BS.

Mr. Carolla doesn't seem to understand is that individual officers don't get a cut or a reward for writing a ticket for no front plate, so why would they go out of their way to write those tickets?

[Finper]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

So the expert, Adam Carolla has decided that cops make a decision to arrest someone based on how much money they have, and the more money the more apt they are to get cited/arrested? In a sense he's right but he has it completely backwards. Some cops are intimidated by money and they are less likely to pull over someone driving a Maserati than a Honda. Why? Because they know that the wealthiest citizens have the money to make their lives hell by filing lawsuits against the cop, filing discrimination or harassment claims, etc. Whereas the 20 year old who works at Taco Bell and is driving his 99 Toyota sedan home won't cause any problems for the cop at all so he's fair game and stands a good chance of being pulled over for some silly BS.

Mr. Carolla doesn't seem to understand is that individual officers don't get a cut or a reward for writing a ticket for no front plate, so why would they go out of their way to write those tickets?

That’s all you got out of that interview?? Maybe cops in Sacramento are intimidated by expensive cars but LA cops? Every third car is a pricey luxury car... I drive one myself.

[Exitus Acta Probat]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

So the expert, Adam Carolla has decided that cops make a decision to arrest someone based on how much money they have, and the more money the more apt they are to get cited/arrested?

Carolla didn't say that. He said that it's a local policy to enforce laws where there's money to be put into government coffers, but he never said it's LEO's that make that policy. And he's correct.

[Exitus Acta Probat]

Originally Posted by Finper

That’s all you got out of that interview?? Maybe cops in Sacramento are intimidated by expensive cars but LA cops? Every third car is a pricey luxury car... I drive one myself.

If it's a sportscar, be sure the muffler is in good working order, because if you're anywhere near the 95 dB CA limit, you'll get pulled over and you'll be required to take your car to a "state referee center" and pay to have a dB meter verify your noise output isn't over the limit. Yeah, that's what we're doing these days, yet people can shoot up drugs directly across the street from police stations and that's fine because there's no money to be made from arresting them...

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

Carolla didn't say that. He said that it's a local policy to enforce laws where there's money to be put into government coffers, but he never said it's LEO's that make that policy. And he's correct.

It's not quite that simple. Sheriff's Departments in California do NOT enforce traffic laws, instead CHP is 'supposed' to do it. At least in Sac County the only time you see CHP is if they are at the scene of an accident, I don't know where they go but they don't do any traffic enforcement, 55+ is common on 40mph street. I'm sure it's that way in unincorporated areas of LA county too.

In Cities there are some Police administrators focus on traffic enforcement as a way to fill the city coffers, but that task is usually performed by a "traffic unit", other cops go about their business without looking for traffic violations. I have never, ever seen a policy where police officers are told not to engage in routine patrol activities but to go write tickets instead.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by Finper

That’s all you got out of that interview?? Maybe cops in Sacramento are intimidated by expensive cars but LA cops? Every third car is a pricey luxury car... I drive one myself.

uh huh, that must be it

[Finper]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

If it's a sportscar, be sure the muffler is in good working order, because if you're anywhere near the 95 dB CA limit, you'll get pulled over and you'll be required to take your car to a "state referee center" and pay to have a dB meter verify your noise output isn't over the limit. Yeah, that's what we're doing these days, yet people can shoot up drugs directly across the street from police stations and that's fine because there's no money to be made from arresting them...

It’s a Lexus not sports car luckily. I got a cell phone ticket 6 months ago from a deputy. I was just holding the phone but didn’t matter. This was in Santa Ana where there’s a huge encampment at the courthouse surrounded by cops and security

[Rakin]

So what happens when the highly contagious and deadly Corona Virus gets loose in the Homeless in LA or SF?

To what extent will CA go to stop and clean up the encampments, restrict the homeless. We've seen how militant the Chinese have had to become and they have over 40,000 (and probably a whole lot more) infected.

Is that when we call in the National Guard ?