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I typed all that so you could write 2 words??? C'mon!! You know how long that took to proofread???
I do understand that often 'we' over-regulate many things in the USA.
I once traveled to a job interview. It was a company that grew silicon crystals, they sliced them into 'wafer's and treated each side of each wafer with multiple layers of different metals. It was all clean-room work. Each machine was computer controlled, and had lots of micro-hydraulics and sensors.
Everyone there was just did daily maintenance on the machines, the machines did all of the real work and it required 40 techs to keep the machines running smooth. The wafers went off to other companies to be etched into IC chips or solar panels.
I had got the call because I knew some of the guys who worked there, the plant manager had figured out that there were benefits to only hiring ex-submariners. So everyone there [except for the receptionist-babe at the front door was an ex-submariner].
We discussed salary and bennies, and it seemed like the job was a shoe-in, so I went home to wait for a call from them. As it turned out the day after my interview, word had came down that the plant was closing.
To do all of that stuff to make silicon wafers makes a lot of hazardous waste [heavy metals and weird acids]. So the EPA was shutting down most US based manufacture of IC chips. This company went to Mexico.
I have no idea how well they did in Mexico. One of my buddies with that company contacted me last summer saying he is now in China.
I do understand that often 'we' regulate manufacturing so much that it is no longer possible to do business in the USA.
I do understand that often 'we' over-regulate many things in the USA.
I once traveled to a job interview. It was a company that grew silicon crystals, they sliced them into 'wafer's and treated each side of each wafer with multiple layers of different metals. It was all clean-room work. Each machine was computer controlled, and had lots of micro-hydraulics and sensors.
Everyone there was just did daily maintenance on the machines, the machines did all of the real work and it required 40 techs to keep the machines running smooth. The wafers went off to other companies to be etched into IC chips or solar panels.
I had got the call because I knew some of the guys who worked there, the plant manager had figured out that there were benefits to only hiring ex-submariners. So everyone there [except for the receptionist-babe at the front door was an ex-submariner].
We discussed salary and bennies, and it seemed like the job was a shoe-in, so I went home to wait for a call from them. As it turned out the day after my interview, word had came down that the plant was closing.
To do all of that stuff to make silicon wafers makes a lot of hazardous waste [heavy metals and weird acids]. So the EPA was shutting down most US based manufacture of IC chips. This company went to Mexico.
I have no idea how well they did in Mexico. One of my buddies with that company contacted me last summer saying he is now in China.
I do understand that often 'we' regulate manufacturing so much that it is no longer possible to do business in the USA.
As a nation we have made every effort to move us away from an industrialized culture to one that is not. We have encouraged industry to move elsewhere and take all of those obnoxious "blue collar" workers with it. The end result is that more and more we produce less and less of VALUE. As a nation we are growing poorer and poorer because if we do not create value, we will have none.
What is that called? It is a called a sinking third world country.
I believe that we as a nation must put people back to work. By work, I mean gainful labor that produces products of value, and the process by which we produce those products, including technology, industrial plant, production processes and transportation methods for distribution are considered proprietary, and NOT for sale or gift to ANYONE. It means that we return to the kinds of wealth building that established this nation as the wealthiest and most politically powerful nation on earth.
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I do understand that often 'we' over-regulate many things in the USA.
I once traveled to a job interview. It was a company that grew silicon crystals, they sliced them into 'wafer's and treated each side of each wafer with multiple layers of different metals. It was all clean-room work. Each machine was computer controlled, and had lots of micro-hydraulics and sensors.
Everyone there was just did daily maintenance on the machines, the machines did all of the real work and it required 40 techs to keep the machines running smooth. The wafers went off to other companies to be etched into IC chips or solar panels.
I had got the call because I knew some of the guys who worked there, the plant manager had figured out that there were benefits to only hiring ex-submariners. So everyone there [except for the receptionist-babe at the front door was an ex-submariner].
We discussed salary and bennies, and it seemed like the job was a shoe-in, so I went home to wait for a call from them. As it turned out the day after my interview, word had came down that the plant was closing.
To do all of that stuff to make silicon wafers makes a lot of hazardous waste [heavy metals and weird acids]. So the EPA was shutting down most US based manufacture of IC chips. This company went to Mexico.
I have no idea how well they did in Mexico. One of my buddies with that company contacted me last summer saying he is now in China.
I do understand that often 'we' regulate manufacturing so much that it is no longer possible to do business in the USA.
That's the Forest I know.
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As a nation we have made every effort to move us away from an industrialized culture to one that is not. We have encouraged industry to move elsewhere and take all of those obnoxious "blue collar" workers with it. The end result is that more and more we produce less and less of VALUE. As a nation we are growing poorer and poorer because if we do not create value, we will have none.
What is that called? It is a called a sinking third world country.
I believe that we as a nation must put people back to work. By work, I mean gainful labor that produces products of value, and the process by which we produce those products, including technology, industrial plant, production processes and transportation methods for distribution are considered proprietary, and NOT for sale or gift to ANYONE. It means that we return to the kinds of wealth building that established this nation as the wealthiest and most politically powerful nation on earth.
I agree. And I think we should also stop giving people the incentive NOT to work. Giving someone a leg up, as it were, is one thing. But making it so they can take trips to the casino on weekends in their new car or taking trips to Disneyland is another. Where is their incentive to work for it? The town used to be able to have GA recipients work it off. No more; State says it isn't right to expect that.
OMGosh, sprayed water all over the monitor on that one. I suddenly feel like I should be mooing or something. As one of those females who flat our refused to breed, I point out all those women here in the midwest who have 5, 6 or more kids. More than enough to compensate for those of us who prefer to remain child-free.
Forest, I'm not picking on you. I just found this really amusing for some reason. I actually agree with pretty much everything the economist spoke of, but how to fix it? I have no idea.
I just hope DH can find a job to get us back there and we'll worry about the rest later.
I meant no insult.
I am in favour of equal-rights and equal pay for all genders.
Somewhere along the way after the big scare about 'over-population', followed by the policy setters of 'zero-growth' and how that effected our culture; and the 'pill'; and so many women dedicating their lives to the workforce; it is no longer as common to see families with kids.
Between 2002 and 2005 we had 5 children [2 bio and 3 foster] and I know that people felt obligated to publicly insult us for having so many children whenever we went out shopping as a family.
Attitudes about raising children have changed a great deal in the US.
Our culture's lack of children is having an effect in Maine, as it is having an effect everywhere in our nation.
Maine's population is growing old. Even if we had jobs we have few young adults in the workforce, and we will have even fewer in 5 years.
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I meant no insult.
I am in favour of equal-rights and equal pay for all genders.
Somewhere along the way after the big scare about 'over-population', followed by the policy setters of 'zero-growth' and how that effected our culture; and the 'pill'; and so many women dedicating their lives to the workforce; it is no longer as common to see families with kids.
Between 2002 and 2005 we had 5 children [2 bio and 3 foster] and I know that people felt obligated to publicly insult us for having so many children whenever we went out shopping as a family.
Attitudes about raising children have changed a great deal in the US.
Our culture's lack of children is having an effect in Maine, as it is having an effect everywhere in our nation.
Maine's population is growing old. Even if we had jobs we have few young adults in the workforce, and we will have even fewer in 5 years.
Seems to me I read or heard in the news somewhere that, due to the amount of welfare recipients, there are not enough young working to pay for our social security and medicare/medicade. It was a few months ago and I can't for the life of me remember where I saw/heard it. Scary though if it's true and not just another FOX News pie chart.
Oh this is not news.....we have known for over a decade that there are not enough people working and paying into the tax system to support those of s who have worked our patooties off for decades only to think about retiring with no possible SS to count on. It is scary and frustrating.
Have everyone over 55 retire and give their jobs to those who say they cannot find jobs and let them pay the taxes that we have been paying.
Everyone wins, they have jobs, they pay taxes and we get the social security benefits that we have paid into for a very long time!
Now the problem really lies in the fact that many of those complaining people simply do not want to work as hard as we have worked. I don't know how to fix that.
I am in favour of equal-rights and equal pay for all genders.
Somewhere along the way after the big scare about 'over-population', followed by the policy setters of 'zero-growth' and how that effected our culture; and the 'pill'; and so many women dedicating their lives to the workforce; it is no longer as common to see families with kids.
Between 2002 and 2005 we had 5 children [2 bio and 3 foster] and I know that people felt obligated to publicly insult us for having so many children whenever we went out shopping as a family.
Attitudes about raising children have changed a great deal in the US.
Our culture's lack of children is having an effect in Maine, as it is having an effect everywhere in our nation.
Maine's population is growing old. Even if we had jobs we have few young adults in the workforce, and we will have even fewer in 5 years.
Forest, I know you meant no insult, and believe me, none was taken. I don't know why that struck me so funny this evening. I guess I associate the term "breeding" with animals more than women.
I can't fathom why anyone would insult you for having 5 children. I think it's wonderful that you fostered 3 in addition to your 2 bio kids. More power to anyone who has the patience.
I along with a lot of my friends and many other Mainers have had to move out of state for work. This has been going on for a many years and many of them return when they hit there retirement years. I hope I don't have to wait that long, but am scared that is what's going to happen.
Story of my life.
When I was a kid my dad told me that my uncle Kenny had the best job in the world picking "wrinkles" and I thought he was nuts because it was back breaking work. He never had a boss breathing down his neck, worked when he wanted to, as long as the tide was down. I had to be stymied in a family business for 20 years to know what he meant.
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Oh this is not news.....we have known for over a decade that there are not enough people working and paying into the tax system to support those of s who have worked our patooties off for decades only to think about retiring with no possible SS to count on. It is scary and frustrating.
Have everyone over 55 retire and give their jobs to those who say they cannot find jobs and let them pay the taxes that we have been paying.
Everyone wins, they have jobs, they pay taxes and we get the social security benefits that we have paid into for a very long time!
Now the problem really lies in the fact that many of those complaining people simply do not want to work as hard as we have worked. I don't know how to fix that.
The problem is that Socialist Insecurity is a ponzi scheme ala Bernie Madoff that is going to crash and burn in my life time.
The really old people got back more than they paid in within 2 or 3 years of retirement and continued cashing checks.
The SS tax was doubled in 1983 so those of us over 45 will have to live to be 130 years old to get back what we paid in.
The SS trust fund has been raided by both political parties during the period they were in charge. The minority party in each case accused the other of ripping off the system, and in each case the minority party was right.
A 1.45% medicare tax was added.
Trusting politicians with your money is like trusting teenage boys with whiskey and car keys.
My daughter's generation will probably have to pay 20% or more of their income to keep us in the lifestyle we are accustomed and ENTITLED to WTF?
The golden era of America is over and done with, just be grateful that you will be dead and gone when the $hit hits the fan, and you won't be dependent on Osamacare.
New Hampshire is terrific except that it doesn't have Maine's pristine Atlantic coast.
If there were a way New Hampshire could annex Maine, it would be the perfect state.
If you mean deregulate, including dx-ing fed regs, and rescind tax after tax, then it sounds good.
IMO NH, to a lesser extent ME and VT, are in positions to offer to move firearms factories, lock, stock, and barrel, from gun-unfriendly states to NH (or ME or VT).
Places like MA, CT, NY, CA, etc. should not be profiteering from evilll guns. They should take the high moral ground and provide incentives for those high tech skilled facilities to move to smoke-stick-friendly states.
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NAFTA is a nightmare, and many of us knew it at the time. And the Federal and state regs are unbelieveable.
I understand. My wife started a Quaker School about 16 years ago. You would not believe the stupid costly regs she has to follow when she was under the State Dept of Education. But when the school shifted down a notch to early childhood ed, it came under the "protection" of the Welfare Dept, not the Education dept. The new regs some of which are so stupid and so costly that it made the Ed Dept reg's look like heaven; it's questitonable whether her school will survive, and it because of things like requiring 10,000 bucks worth of rubber playground materials for a small school with only 45 kids. Heck, they have a mortgage on their building and have to pay all utilities and employees, and benefits etc, and they get dumped with many things like that.
These things have to change, but who's going to do it? State reps won't intervene.
Z
It is criminal that our "servants" are strangling us from their well paid happy-retirement villas.
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My swamp in back of the house, is now zoned resource protection, by the dep. Part of my lawn is now a forested wetland.
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Originally Posted by forest beekeeper
I do understand that often 'we' over-regulate many things in the USA.
I once traveled to a job interview. It was a company that grew silicon crystals, they sliced them into 'wafer's and treated each side of each wafer with multiple layers of different metals. It was all clean-room work. Each machine was computer controlled, and had lots of micro-hydraulics and sensors.
Everyone there was just did daily maintenance on the machines, the machines did all of the real work and it required 40 techs to keep the machines running smooth. The wafers went off to other companies to be etched into IC chips or solar panels.
I had got the call because I knew some of the guys who worked there, the plant manager had figured out that there were benefits to only hiring ex-submariners. So everyone there [except for the receptionist-babe at the front door was an ex-submariner].
We discussed salary and bennies, and it seemed like the job was a shoe-in, so I went home to wait for a call from them. As it turned out the day after my interview, word had came down that the plant was closing.
To do all of that stuff to make silicon wafers makes a lot of hazardous waste [heavy metals and weird acids]. So the EPA was shutting down most US based manufacture of IC chips. This company went to Mexico.
I have no idea how well they did in Mexico. One of my buddies with that company contacted me last summer saying he is now in China.
I do understand that often 'we' regulate manufacturing so much that it is no longer possible to do business in the USA.
Our enemies must wake up each day amazed, that the USA has grown so righteously stupid in its success and prosperity.
Who's doing something to change their situation and what's being done?
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