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Old 05-06-2011, 05:52 AM
 
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I was just curious why that is the case.
My thought is that there are certain cities/areas that internalize being a fan of their team(s) as being a big part of their identity. When their team loses, they feel the loss. However, when their team wins - they're elated as if they actually won something personally. Identifying with other fans (at games, tailgating, etc) builds a sense of camaraderie. Philly is one of these areas. When the Eagles lose a big game - people are depressed the next day. When the Phillies won the World series, the city + metro area was ecstatic for months...probably more. Maybe it has roots in towns that are typically blue-collar. Folks have to work hard (physically) all week, at the end of the day they want to kick up their feet and get some joy out of their local sports team and forget about their job, bills, etc. When I think of other football teams with hardcore fans, I think of Pittsburgh, Chicago, Packers, and Cleveland (even though they haven't been so great).

Now a question to you Northbound - why are you concerned with how people dress? It seems to be a fairly shallow observation. Plus, when I was in grad school - I don't think I had the extra time to think about anything other than my studies, let alone ponder the wardrobe of the citizens around me.
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Old 05-06-2011, 06:52 AM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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As was said multiple times, the answer to your question is that there are some other cities where people wear just as much sports clothing as they do in Philly. As far as all the other cities that don't, as soug said, it's because Philly fans are the best in the country. Yes, sports are important to people here, but that doesn't make them classless.



At least that GQ list took out some of the stuff it blatantly made up when it first published that article. I believe Ed Rendell even sent a letter to the editor criticizing them. Is the player that the fans booed that "helped the Phillies win a World Series title" Adam Eaton? If so, he didn't help anything.

Looking through the rest of the list, I forgot about how Montreal fans booed the U.S. National Anthem; I believe they did this when they played the Flyers too. But alas, Montreal is the classiest city in North America.
i think lidge was the player the fans booed. and beating a kid to death in the parking lot, also a phillies fan...doesn't score points for best fans in the country.

loyal fans..yes.
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Old 05-06-2011, 08:28 AM
 
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It said the player was booed while getting his ring. No way they booed Lidge. I'm like 95% sure it was Eaton, who wasn't even on the playoff roster, and was probably the worst pitcher in MLB. Even so, as bad as Lidge was in 2009, he was rarely booed.

I don't believe the beating you're referring to was about sports, just a bar fight that got out of control. No excuse for it, but that happens all over. Speaking of beatings, those "classy" LA residents did beat that guy from SF into a coma basically because he was a Giants fan...
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Old 05-06-2011, 08:29 AM
 
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What does it say about a person who calls people tacky and low class and then can't figure out why people get defensive? Clearly not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
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Old 05-06-2011, 09:22 AM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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It said the player was booed while getting his ring. No way they booed Lidge. I'm like 95% sure it was Eaton, who wasn't even on the playoff roster, and was probably the worst pitcher in MLB. Even so, as bad as Lidge was in 2009, he was rarely booed.

I don't believe the beating you're referring to was about sports, just a bar fight that got out of control. No excuse for it, but that happens all over. Speaking of beatings, those "classy" LA residents did beat that guy from SF into a coma basically because he was a Giants fan...
well - you might be right about eaton. but i know i've seen games where lidge was booed. yankee fans boo some of their players too - so no biggie.

the beating was in the bar at the game. it started as an argument and carried out into the parking lot. every team has bad fans, no doubt, but having grown up in northeast PA and living in a split world between ny and philly fans my experiences with philly fans on the majority is pretty horrible. there are some great fans though, no doubt. but many take their passion a little too far. a friend of mine that is a huge philly sports fan is a phillies season ticket holder and eagles season ticket holder. he WILL NOT take his kids to an eagles game. and don't forget the guy who intentionally vomited on the 9 year old girl sitting in front of him because she and he dad were opposing team fans. yet...some kid in the upper deck "spitting on" cliff lee's wife is major news...kinda funny.
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Old 05-06-2011, 09:33 AM
 
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Well, if you are going to be tacky and low class on purpose by wearing Phillies shirts every day, why would you get defensive about it? It doesn't make sense to me. Just admit to being tacky and low class, and continue wearing your Phillies shirts. Nobody can say with a straight face that wearing the same ugly red shirt with a big deformed "P" on it every day is a classy thing to do. Just admit to being tacky, and move on. Problem solved. No need to get offended.
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Old 05-06-2011, 10:04 AM
 
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Nobody can say with a straight face that wearing the same ugly red shirt with a big deformed "P" on it every day is a classy thing to do. .
Thanks for the fashion insight of the day, Tim Gunn.
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Old 05-06-2011, 10:09 AM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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It said the player was booed while getting his ring. No way they booed Lidge. I'm like 95% sure it was Eaton, who wasn't even on the playoff roster, and was probably the worst pitcher in MLB. Even so, as bad as Lidge was in 2009, he was rarely booed.

I don't believe the beating you're referring to was about sports, just a bar fight that got out of control. No excuse for it, but that happens all over. Speaking of beatings, those "classy" LA residents did beat that guy from SF into a coma basically because he was a Giants fan...
I'd be more inclined to think that it was someone from the 1980 team. Pete Rose was on that team & a lot of people did not like him.
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Old 05-06-2011, 10:18 AM
 
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Well, if you are going to be tacky and low class on purpose by wearing Phillies shirts every day, why would you get defensive about it? It doesn't make sense to me. Just admit to being tacky and low class, and continue wearing your Phillies shirts. Nobody can say with a straight face that wearing the same ugly red shirt with a big deformed "P" on it every day is a classy thing to do. Just admit to being tacky, and move on. Problem solved. No need to get offended.
So, if I'm sitting around with my friends at a cafe discussing Voltaire while snacking on a charcuterie platter and sipping a glass of Commanderie du Bontemps while wearing a Phillies shirt, I'm tacky and low class?

You know what else is tacky and low class? Sweeping generalizations of people based on nothing more than their outward appearance. So glad, they'll be one less pseudo intellectual around in another year or so. Just some advice though, if you do move to Montreal to be with all the other classy people, make sure you buy a Habs jersey so you can fit in.
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Old 05-06-2011, 10:45 AM
 
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well - you might be right about eaton. but i know i've seen games where lidge was booed. yankee fans boo some of their players too - so no biggie.

the beating was in the bar at the game. it started as an argument and carried out into the parking lot. every team has bad fans, no doubt, but having grown up in northeast PA and living in a split world between ny and philly fans my experiences with philly fans on the majority is pretty horrible. there are some great fans though, no doubt. but many take their passion a little too far. a friend of mine that is a huge philly sports fan is a phillies season ticket holder and eagles season ticket holder. he WILL NOT take his kids to an eagles game. and don't forget the guy who intentionally vomited on the 9 year old girl sitting in front of him because she and he dad were opposing team fans. yet...some kid in the upper deck "spitting on" cliff lee's wife is major news...kinda funny.
Any time a Philly fan does something that can be remotely construed as negative it is major news in the media. Did you hear they were cheering the death of an old man on Sunday? (sarcasm, I think that was the first time the media has actually praised Philly fans). The vomit incident was certainly not a good one, but there's definitely been worse in other cities:

-Almost an entire Cleveland Browns stadium throwing beer bottles onto the field (read: not just one crazy fan, but thousands of them)

-Cubs fan dumping a beer on Shane Victorino while attempting to make a catch (and still making it, BTW)

-White Sox fans attacking a Royals first base coach

-the aforementioned Dodgers fans beating the Giants fan into a coma

But Philly fans are the scum of the earth, and I guess now they are also tacky and low-class
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