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I saw transplants getting off at Ralph Avenue on the C train today and for those of you that don't know Brooklyn, you're right at Ralph Avenue and Fulton Street in Breevort Houses, a pretty rough housing project. All I'm doing is watching how far east in Brooklyn will they go. My prediction is in another 20 years the gentry will stop at Rockaway Avenue on the C train. It then will venture along the J train east of Alabama Avenue to Cypress Hills, and then most people will be pushed south to East New York proper, and the "ghoul pool" will have enough overtime for thousands of NYPD.
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Spread them out. I think it would be best if they are proportionately sprinkled all over the place rather than having them taking over entire neighborhoods.
Then thank goodness Ridgewood is not in Brooklyn. If it was I wouldn't (want to) afford it. That imaginary boro line is its best line of defense. I really hope that every neighborhood in brownstone Brooklyn doesn't turn into Park Slope, which has completed the gentrification process and everyone looks the same.
Well, if the issue is more having people look the same rather than a large proportion of affluent white people, then there are/were a lot of neighborhoods that were formerly very homogenous (and some that are/were much more homegenous than Park Slope today) that are now being diversified through gentrification.
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Originally Posted by G-Dale
Spread them out. I think it would be best if they are proportionately sprinkled all over the place rather than having them taking over entire neighborhoods.
Yea, and do it somewhat slowly so the long term residents can adjust more easily and possibly even benefit from a slow improvements in the neighborhood from more affluent residents.
Well, if the issue is more having people look the same rather than a large proportion of affluent white people, then there are/were a lot of neighborhoods that were formerly very homogenous (and some that are/were much more homegenous than Park Slope today) that are now being diversified
Meant more so of going from homogenous to homogenous without finding an equilibrium somewhere in between.
I saw transplants getting off at Ralph Avenue on the C train today and for those of you that don't know Brooklyn, you're right at Ralph Avenue and Fulton Street in Breevort Houses, a pretty rough housing project. All I'm doing is watching how far east in Brooklyn will they go. My prediction is in another 20 years the gentry will stop at Rockaway Avenue on the C train. It then will venture along the J train east of Alabama Avenue to Cypress Hills, and then most people will be pushed south to East New York proper, and the "ghoul pool" will have enough overtime for thousands of NYPD.
I think a lot of people (including transplants) move further and further out until they leave the city. The problem with going out to far out areas is if you work in Manhattan, you've got quite the commute and its not like there's any bars or gyms that you like to frequent. Now, some of that may eventually change, but in the meantime, its not such a good deal.
I think a lot of people (including transplants) move further and further out until they leave the city. The problem with going out to far out areas is if you work in Manhattan, you've got quite the commute and its not like there's any bars or gyms that you like to frequent. Now, some of that may eventually change, but in the meantime, its not such a good deal.
Anywhere west of Broadway Junction on the L, A or J lines your in Manhattan within 30 mins, 20 mins on a good day. Within 50 mins you can get to Woodhaven blvd on the A or J. Not saying you'll see movement that far east, just that its not all that long of a commute.
Anywhere west of Broadway Junction on the L, A or J lines your in Manhattan within 30 mins, 20 mins on a good day. Within 50 mins you can get to Woodhaven blvd on the A or J. Not saying you'll see movement that far east, just that its not all that long of a commute.
I highly doubt gentrification will ever reach Broadway Junction Boulevard. I was there two weeks ago and that place is just as hood as ever, more so than my neighborhood. But overall I do agree that its a watch, wait and see process if the gentrification train can push eastward, maybe we will see Brownsville and ENY receive some sort of spillover.
I highly doubt gentrification will ever reach Broadway Junction Boulevard. I was there two weeks ago and that place is just as hood as ever, more so than my neighborhood. But overall I do agree that its a watch, wait and see process if the gentrification train can push eastward, maybe we will see Brownsville and ENY receive some sort of spillover.
Its also decently FAR from WORK centers. Not so say an occasional stray can't end up there ,but in generally I totally agree with you.
The thing is, gentrification is not necessarily permanent. The city was roaring during the 20s, horrible during the 30s, came back during WW2-the 50s, and crashed in the 70s, and was down till the early 90s. So all that means is that the city's economy's is cyclical. It will go down and hot neighborhoods will be not again. Its not a matter of if, its a matter of when. Things will be bad for awhile, and eventually they'll come back (aslo a question of WHEN, not IF).
Its not that far at all from Downtown Brooklyn, Lower Manhattan, Williamsburg or JFK.
Not sure that something like this has ever happened since these potentially gentrifying neighborhoods have originally been built. Growth was always an outward expansion. In the '20s they expanded to southern brooklyn and western/central queens, the '40s was eastern queens and into the suburbs.
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