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Old 06-04-2014, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Between the Bays
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I don't think anyone supports a shelter. But keep in mind the situation in many poor Black and Hispanic communities. The majority of people know people who are in and out of jail, including their relatives. I too have my own relatives with their problems with the law. In short, since people in poor Black and Hispanic communities are out of the mainstream themselves, they aren't going to try to outright shut out people in shelters, or that population. It may not help the neighborhood, but as someone who is from a somewhat rough area (originally from Jackson Heights, which in the 80s and 90s was far from the city's nicest neighborhood and still isn't), when the majority of families you know have had people with legal issues, it just becomes the norm of how people act or what they do.
Maybe I should have included the word "homeowner" in my statement.
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Old 06-04-2014, 11:49 AM
 
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Maybe I should have included the word "homeowner" in my statement.
Not all homeowners would care, either. Different people think differently. And yes, homeowners in poor neighborhoods have relatives who have problems with the law.
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Old 06-04-2014, 12:12 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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A high concentration of homeowners does usually lead to more concern and interest in community matters, regardless of economic status.
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Old 06-04-2014, 03:36 PM
 
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A high concentration of homeowners does usually lead to more concern and interest in community matters, regardless of economic status.
Correction, a high concentration of homeowners who live in their homes and don't live elsewhere while renting out their houses does lead to more concern in community matters. This is assuming said homeowners not only live in their homes, but live in their homes as single family units. It's a whole different matter when you have homeowners who buy homes and live in them and have 10 relatives in their home (true of many neighborhoods with high immigrant populations, and no offense).
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Old 06-04-2014, 03:53 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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A homeowner is a homeowner. A landlord is a landlord. I figured that would be clear.
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Old 06-04-2014, 04:10 PM
 
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/03/nyregion/boy-dies-brooklyn-stabbing-boulevard-housing-project.html?_r=0

From the article:

"On Sunday evening, Mikayla Capers, 7, and Prince Joshua Avitto, 6, who was known as P.J., craved something cold and sweet after playing outside in the sun. As they entered the cramped, dimly lit elevator in the Boulevard Houses just before 6 p.m., a 22-second ride away from the Icees in the freezer, the killer was just behind them.

In that metal box, he plunged a black-handled 8-inch kitchen knife again and again. P.J. was mortally wounded. Mikayla stumbled out, screaming, before collapsing as the man fled past her."
NYC, Cradle of Civilization.
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Old 06-04-2014, 04:33 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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Pretty much what I was saying:

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Old 06-04-2014, 04:51 PM
 
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Pretty much what I was saying:

Paging Shira Scheindlin | New York Post
How quickly political winds change.....................
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Old 06-04-2014, 04:52 PM
 
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A homeowner is a homeowner. A landlord is a landlord. I figured that would be clear.
Okay, I just had to distinguish between the two types of property owners.
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Old 06-04-2014, 05:04 PM
 
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A lot of these guys who are homeless have psychiatric issues. There has to be a way for the city to deal with what I think is a growing problem that has gone unnoticed for far too long. Another thing that has to be addressed is security in nycha buildings.
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