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Old 06-19-2012, 08:08 PM
 
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Yeah, puppies and dogs never let it rip on your carpet, destroy your furniture, bark for no reason, trip you up when you're walking down the street, annoy the hell out of you when you're waiting in line, etc...



Should have known that this thread would just become a soapbox for people who dislike children to snivel triumphantly to eachother about how they don't understand how people could possibly love other, smaller people.
Big whoop. So they answered the op.
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Old 06-19-2012, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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Big whoop. So they answered the op.
And I'm answering, pointing out antisocial double standards!
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Old 06-19-2012, 08:15 PM
 
Location: southern california
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if u like dogs they will say u r a hunter or spca supporter. if you like kids they will say u r a pedophile.
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Old 06-19-2012, 08:26 PM
 
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Really. Some of you are truly disturbed. When a small child dies it is horrifically painful as they haven't had many of life's opportunities and joys. I adore absolutely adore my two dogs. But I would never put them ahead of a child. Sorry human life is sacred. And if you read the Christianity threads I am NOT into religion. I'm frankly appalled
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Old 06-19-2012, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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Really. Some of you are truly disturbed. When a small child dies it is horrifically painful as they haven't had many of life's opportunities and joys. I adore absolutely adore my two dogs. But I would never put them ahead of a child. Sorry human life is sacred. And if you read the Christianity threads I am NOT into religion. I'm frankly appalled
And that's what gets me, is the smug, self-congratulatory declaration that there's no difference between a child or an adult or a dog dying, or that they can't possibly understand why it's such a big deal. I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume that they have never been close to a child who's died, or their parents or family. Go tell a parent whose kid died that there's really no reason that they should be hit any harder than if anyone else died, if you have the stones, and see how they react to it.

There are a lot people these days who simply view kids as short, smart-mouthed adults, and not as a young human being who is learning how life and the world works.
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Old 06-19-2012, 08:49 PM
 
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Thank you for illustrating why I like animals more than people.
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Old 06-19-2012, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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Thank you for illustrating why I like animals more than people.
... and that would be because...?
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Old 06-19-2012, 09:01 PM
 
Location: California
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And that's what gets me, is the smug, self-congratulatory declaration that there's no difference between a child or an adult or a dog dying, or that they can't possibly understand why it's such a big deal. I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume that they have never been close to a child who's died, or their parents or family. Go tell a parent whose kid died that there's really no reason that they should be hit any harder than if anyone else died, if you have the stones, and see how they react to it.

There are a lot people these days who simply view kids as short, smart-mouthed adults, and not as a young human being who is learning how life and the world works.
So, by your statement, if a young child dies, the parents are devastated. Fine, I can see that. But, if an adult dies in the same accident, because they are an adult, they no longer have parents who are devastated by the death of their child who just happens to be an adult? At what age is an adult no longer able to be considered someone's child? I know my parents see me as their kid. But, if something happens to an adult and a child, well, as the child is young, the parents of the adult who was injured don't get to feel the loss of their child is traumatic? Out of curiosity, at what age is a person no longer considered the child of their parents? Probably should let the parents know that the loss of their 25 year old child isn't as sad as the loss of the 5 year old child and that their grief isn't as relevant as the grief of the parents who lost the 5 year old.

But, only do that, as you put it, if you have the stones.

Now, I am an animal lover, but there IS a difference between the death of an animal and a human, adult or child.
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Old 06-19-2012, 09:03 PM
 
Location: California
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... and that would be because...?
You know. You know exactly what Three Wolves In Snow meant.
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Old 06-19-2012, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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So, by your statement, if a young child dies, the parents are devastated. Fine, I can see that. But, if an adult dies in the same accident, because they are an adult, they no longer have parents who are devastated by the death of their child who just happens to be an adult? At what age is an adult no longer able to be considered someone's child? I know my parents see me as their kid. But, if something happens to an adult and a child, well, as the child is young, the parents of the adult who was injured don't get to feel the loss of their child is traumatic? Out of curiosity, at what age is a person no longer considered the child of their parents? Probably should let the parents know that the loss of their 25 year old child isn't as sad as the loss of the 5 year old child and that their grief isn't as relevant as the grief of the parents who lost the 5 year old.

But, only do that, as you put it, if you have the stones.
I would give some consideration to what you pose as a rebuttal, however, I would consider someone who lost their 25 year old as being someone who lost their kid. Furthermore, I wonder if that 25 year old had their own child who died in a hypothetical accident, that the grandparent would think to themselves, "at least it wasn't my child?"

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Now, I am an animal lover, but there IS a difference between the death of an animal and a human, adult or child.
There most certainly is.
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