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Old 05-27-2016, 08:17 AM
 
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I didn't like the guy at first, but in only 3 years, Pat McCrory has managed to pay off $2.75 billion in federal debt, save taxpayers $280 million per year in penalties, drastically reduce both personal and corporate income tax rates while creating a budget surplus, minimize tax waste on film and unemployment subsidies (which helped push the employment rate to its highest level in eight years), stand up to federal executive overreach and initiate increases to teacher pay to the highest level in the entire Southeast.

What did Bev Perdue do again?

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Old 05-27-2016, 08:28 AM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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I didn't like the guy at first, but in only 3 years, McCrory has managed to pay off $2.75 billion in federal debt, save taxpayers $280 million per year in penalties, drastically reduce both personal and corporate income tax rates, minimize tax waste on film and unemployment subsidies (which helped push the employment rate to its highest level in eight years), stood up to federal executive overreach and initiate increases to teacher pay to the highest level in the entire Southeast.

What did Bev Perdue do again?
Bev helped bring far better jobs in greater numbers to my town. She didn't raise taxes on me as much as McCrory. I count raising fees as raising taxes. She didn't embarrass me by signing a law that takes rights from everyone in the state.
 
Old 05-27-2016, 08:59 AM
 
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Bev helped bring far better jobs in greater numbers to my town. She didn't raise taxes on me as much as McCrory. I count raising fees as raising taxes. She didn't embarrass me by signing a law that takes rights from everyone in the state.
If your town is not sharing the same growth as the rest of North Carolina, sounds like you may need a different mayor. The governor is doing a fine job.
 
Old 05-27-2016, 09:29 AM
 
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I didn't like the guy at first, but in only 3 years, Pat McCrory has managed to pay off $2.75 billion in federal debt, save taxpayers $280 million per year in penalties, drastically reduce both personal and corporate income tax rates while creating a budget surplus, minimize tax waste on film and unemployment subsidies (which helped push the employment rate to its highest level in eight years), stood up to federal executive overreach and initiate increases to teacher pay to the highest level in the entire Southeast.

What did Bev Perdue do again?
Great accomplishments, I guess?


Though better get use to saying Gov. Cooper and pray that voter ID thingy works wonders. Down 4% to Cooper right now but already seeing anti-Cooper ads...about time for that GOP machine (Pope and team) to pump tons of cash into the fray to save his arse. With all those "great" accomplishments its hard to imagine this guy struggling.....blind partisanship perhaps.


https://ballotpedia.org/North_Caroli...election,_2016
 
Old 05-27-2016, 09:39 AM
 
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If your town is not sharing the same growth as the rest of North Carolina, sounds like you may need a different mayor. The governor is doing a fine job.
The governor gets credit for the businesses that come in because of state kickbacks. That would be 3 data centers for Bev, one Chinese mill for McCrory. The number one person for job creation in my town is Tim Moore. The former mayor did a very good job bringing in & retaining jobs.

Tim Moore did the legal work to upgrade the Cherokee casino status. Bev signed it & it went into effect instantly. He was involved with the Catawba application just outside of my town. It would provide 4000 jobs. McCrory refused to sign for it, so that puts him in the hole by thousands of jobs.
 
Old 05-27-2016, 09:43 AM
 
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Great accomplishments, I guess?


Though better get use to saying Gov. Cooper and pray that voter ID thingy works wonders. Down 4% to Cooper right now but already seeing anti-Cooper ads...about time for that GOP machine (Pope and team) to pump tons of cash into the fray to save his arse. With all those "great" accomplishments its hard to imagine this guy struggling.....blind partisanship perhaps.


https://ballotpedia.org/North_Caroli...election,_2016
The voter suppression law is back in court, this time with witnesses who were turned away in the primary without legal reasons.
 
Old 05-27-2016, 01:07 PM
 
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I didn't like the guy at first, but in only 3 years, Pat McCrory has managed to pay off $2.75 billion in federal debt, save taxpayers $280 million per year in penalties, drastically reduce both personal and corporate income tax rates while creating a budget surplus, minimize tax waste on film and unemployment subsidies (which helped push the employment rate to its highest level in eight years), stand up to federal executive overreach and initiate increases to teacher pay to the highest level in the entire Southeast.

What did Bev Perdue do again?
Can you define "drastically"? There was a minor benefit when the new state income tax went into effect, but it wasn't dramatic. I'm a reasonably high wage earner (though very far from the one-percenters) and my paycheck went up a few dollars per paycheck.

I'm not knee deep into politics, but I do know that what you quote is very likely carefully selected nuggets left for the modestly informed to find by people working on behalf of the Governor. If I recall correctly, the pay-off of federal debt was attached to a devastating reduction in unemployment benefits. That in turn resulted in many people officially leaving the active work force altogether which impacted the improved unemployment numbers.

And no matter whether or not you are for/against HB2, the clumsy and underhanded method by which it was approved combined with the ongoing public embarrassment it's inspired has damaged North Carolina in ways that cannot yet be accurately measured.

We, collectively, are in worse shape now than before Governor McCrory came into office.
 
Old 05-27-2016, 03:21 PM
 
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Can you define "drastically"? There was a minor benefit when the new state income tax went into effect, but it wasn't dramatic. I'm a reasonably high wage earner (though very far from the one-percenters) and my paycheck went up a few dollars per paycheck.

I'm not knee deep into politics, but I do know that what you quote is very likely carefully selected nuggets left for the modestly informed to find by people working on behalf of the Governor. If I recall correctly, the pay-off of federal debt was attached to a devastating reduction in unemployment benefits. That in turn resulted in many people officially leaving the active work force altogether which impacted the improved unemployment numbers.

And no matter whether or not you are for/against HB2, the clumsy and underhanded method by which it was approved combined with the ongoing public embarrassment it's inspired has damaged North Carolina in ways that cannot yet be accurately measured.

We, collectively, are in worse shape now than before Governor McCrory came into office.
The "state persona" of North Carolina has definitely changed ...and not for the better. North Carolina's image reminds me of Lindsay Lohan, who went from a freshed-faced teen with loads of promise to a slightly skanky, drug-addled, has-been! North Carolina won't even know how much revenue it's lost, because it will no longer be on the radar of "up-and-coming businesses" as well as "old business stalwarts" whose leadership is offended by the shenanigans of the right-wing, nut-job dominated North Carolina state legislature.

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Old 05-27-2016, 04:11 PM
 
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Can you define "drastically"? There was a minor benefit when the new state income tax went into effect, but it wasn't dramatic. I'm a reasonably high wage earner (though very far from the one-percenters) and my paycheck went up a few dollars per paycheck.
I meant to say "significantly" and mostly in relation to maintaining a low corporate income tax, which is a huge draw for businesses and new jobs.

You guys are really over-reacting. Businesses and transplants are pouring in and there are no real signs of that stopping. Nearly every single indicator is headed in the right direction. North Carolina is improving year after year and if you weren't so obviously partisan about it, you'd have to give Pat McCrory at least a better rating than Bev Perdue.

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Old 05-27-2016, 05:10 PM
 
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I meant to say "significantly" and mostly in relation to maintaining a low corporate income tax, which is a huge draw for businesses and new jobs.

You guys are really over-reacting. Businesses and transplants are pouring in and there are no real signs of that stopping. Nearly every single indicator is headed in the right direction. North Carolina is improving year after year and if you weren't so obviously partisan about it, you'd have to give Pat McCrory at least a better rating than Bev Perdue.
If you were unemployed and had your unemployment benefits terminated by the Governor and others of his political ilk, you're probably not an "adoring sycophant". If you were waiting for semi-affordable health care and were too rich for medicaid, but too poor for the then-available individual plans, Pat McCrory has been an economic disaster or an ignorant Angel of Death for many North Carolina citizens. Bev Perdue was a democratic idiot followed by a republican idiot, our Pat McCrory! They both have stunk to the high heavens and serve to remind the citizens of this state of the consistently poor quality of gubernatorial candidates in the recent past. We'll see in November, whether Roy Cooper can break out of the mold of mediocrity that has afflicted this state for far too long!
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