To all those seeking to live in NC, what exactly is it that you are after? (moving, beaches)

[backtofla]

things from nc natives towards others/outsiders/foreigners/ or whatever natives call them at times. not everyone does this of course, but man i dont think i have seen the racism and negativity towards "yankees" as i have seen here in western nc. it goes both ways, "lucky dog."

[I'minformed2]

Originally Posted by sandy beaches

Couldn't have said that better myself. I have been reading this thread because I have family members thinking of moving to NC. The hostility is overwhelming. And geez if you mention the atrocious school situation and disagree with Paddling they attack. I remember reading facts from a woman from NC about certain "school issues". I think she runs a cause or something. All her posts had been deleted.

I have to say, as an "old transplant" to NC for over 11 years (now leaving though), it's been my observation that the natives, at least those in the more populated areas (not so much in the small towns and country) are more accepting (at least to their face) than the new transplants. It was only a few weeks ago when I was in a little deli in Apex called "New York NY Fresh Deli" , and there was a couple who came in to order their food, while we were already sitting down and eating. The Deli was actually a franchise, and the franchise owners were native NC'ers, complete with the thick Carolina accent. The owner asked the customer what she wanted, and the lady said " well you don't sound like you're from new york.... do you have any COW TOUNGE". When the lady said she had never heard of people eating cow tongue, still in a fairly polite voice, the new yorker lady made an arrogant scoff and said "we drove 30 minutes here from North Raleigh and you call yourselves a new york deli and you don't even have cow tongue". The owner explaned that it was a franchise and that there really isn't much demand for cow tongue. The lady just rolled her eyes, and when her husband wanted to order a Rueben (which I was eating, and it was excellent) his wife said, "we aren't going to eat at this fake place". Now while I'm sure the expression "**** yankee" was used multiple times by the owner of that deli that day and many days after, I see that as being more welcoming than the transplant new yorker"

[I'minformed2]

I know, I almost cholked when I heard that. Apparently it's a New York City food.

[luckydog]

miker...guess I have carried that around a while...sorry to unload on you all..it just started spilling...

fastfilm...I'm totally blown away by all your posts, and the others too, about cali...I think your experiences are far worse than mine actually, on many levels...and at least I never actually got spit on, as was reported a while back.

[NYer]

Originally Posted by backtofla

things from nc natives towards others/outsiders/foreigners/ or whatever natives call them at times. not everyone does this of course, but man i dont think i have seen the racism and negativity towards "yankees" as i have seen here in western nc. it goes both ways, "lucky dog."

I hope I am being clear, by "foreigners" I am referring no non- Americans , and mostly I am talking about the ones who make absolutely no effort to learn English or to become part of this area...

[luckydog]

I hope you don't think all us retirees from NY are like that

of course not...I absolutely don't

[Miker2069]

Originally Posted by i'minformed

I know, I almost cholked when I heard that. Apparently it's a New York City food.

Hey don't knock a good "tongue" sandwich until you've tried it- it's the only sandwhich that will taste you back LOL

Seriously though...the rude woman in that deli clearly had no "home training". I can't even say I experienced that kind of rudeness in a real NYC deli in Manhattan. It's just proof there are *jerks* everywhere.


Lucky's thoughts are very valid and courageous. She spoke her true feelings, and didn't bottle them up anymore. It was an experience she felt that was clearly at a minimum traumatic. I don't really want to go to far on this as there are SOOO many threads that could be extracted from lucky's testimony.

I'll say this though, I *know* those moving down will be considerate of the wonderful NCians and the NCians will continue to extend that great southern hospitality and friendliness. We will ALL strive to not let past bad experiences be the single determinating factor on how we interact with new people.

[a1m1700]

Originally Posted by i'minformed

I have to say, as an "old transplant" to NC for over 11 years (now leaving though), it's been my observation that the natives, at least those in the more populated areas (not so much in the small towns and country) are more accepting (at least to their face) than the new transplants. It was only a few weeks ago when I was in a little deli in Apex called "New York NY Fresh Deli" , and there was a couple who came in to order their food, while we were already sitting down and eating. The Deli was actually a franchise, and the franchise owners were native NC'ers, complete with the thick Carolina accent. The owner asked the customer what she wanted, and the lady said " well you don't sound like you're from new york.... do you have any COW TOUNGE". When the lady said she had never heard of people eating cow tongue, still in a fairly polite voice, the new yorker lady made an arrogant scoff and said "we drove 30 minutes here from North Raleigh and you call yourselves a new york deli and you don't even have cow tongue". The owner explaned that it was a franchise and that there really isn't much demand for cow tongue. The lady just rolled her eyes, and when her husband wanted to order a Rueben (which I was eating, and it was excellent) his wife said, "we aren't going to eat at this fake place". Now while I'm sure the expression "**** yankee" was used multiple times by the owner of that deli that day and many days after, I see that as being more welcoming than the transplant new yorker"

That is a typical New Yorker if I ever heard one. I could just picture them now. That's what I HATE. My mother is like that exactly. LOL Some of them are sooo obnoxious. Brings back memories although we have them here too. I can see why the NC natives get aggrevated with them.

Oh by the way I love ruebens!!

[I'minformed2]

I grew up an hour away from a town in Upstate NY called Phelps that had an annual Sauer***** festival because the area has a lot of cabbage fields. I know it smells HORRIBLE, and I can't eat it... unless ofcourse it's on a rueben. Same thing with Thousand Island Dressing (The thousand Islands were also only a couple hours away. lol)

[I'minformed2]

why the heck did they think k-r-a-u-t was a bad word?