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Old 03-03-2023, 10:11 PM
 
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There’s really not a lot of entertainment going on in Pittsburgh to draw big crowds for the duration of the night. It’s the usual places, venues, restaurants, areas, etc…, and there’s those that have desirable entertainment. We get together with family/friends wherever bars/restaurants take us on the where the entertainment is that day/night. There’s just not enough going on to make many area’s desirable enough to fill up. It’s why I remember that statement of being a sleepy city being said many years ago…and let’s not forget the skyrocketing violence that no doubt plays a factor.
This point is probably key for downtown now - the violence factor that you mentioned no doubt keeps people away from just having a nice walk around and ducking into their place of choice for drink or bite to eat. You hear about people getting offed downtown , makes you want to stay away. People used to consider it a pretty safe place because of all the foot traffic - I mean in like the 70s and 80s. and then it was getting pretty popular before the stupid coronavirus that caused mass hysteria for no valid reason.

 
Old 03-03-2023, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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This point is probably key for downtown now - the violence factor that you mentioned no doubt keeps people away from just having a nice walk around and ducking into their place of choice for drink or bite to eat. You hear about people getting offed downtown , makes you want to stay away. People used to consider it a pretty safe place because of all the foot traffic - I mean in like the 70s and 80s. and then it was getting pretty popular before the stupid coronavirus that caused mass hysteria for no valid reason.
It absolutely keeps folks away….and the mass hysteria, fearmongering, etc…, by the live in fear folks made it that way…and then they try to defend why more people don’t frequent the area, businesses closed, office space is empty, etc… These folks reap what they sow because they can’t see 5 minutes in front of themselves. They can’t understand why folks and businesses move on, and why areas become the way they do while enabling it to happen. It’s quite amazing.

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Old 03-03-2023, 10:48 PM
 
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It absolutely keeps folks away….and the mass hysteria, fearmongering, etc…, by the live in fear folks made it that way…and then they try to defend why more people don’t frequent the area, businesses closed, office space is empty, etc… These folks reap what they sow because they can’t see 5 minutes in front of themselves. They can’t understand why folks and businesses move on, and why areas become the way they do while enabling it to happen. It’s quite amazing.
beyond that - the biggest psy-op in history. if anyone thinks I am a conspiracy theorist, you can find videos of Event 201 easily online, sponsored by you guessed it Bill Gates and the lovable group of Davos degenerates. where they predicted the whole thing 2 months before it happened somehow. and they had patents on the "vaccines" already. yeah. Nuremburg II
 
Old 03-04-2023, 06:47 AM
 
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It absolutely keeps folks away….and the mass hysteria, fearmongering, etc…, by the live in fear folks made it that way…and then they try to defend why more people don’t frequent the area, businesses closed, office space is empty, etc… These folks reap what they sow because they can’t see 5 minutes in front of themselves. They can’t understand why folks and businesses move on, and why areas become the way they do while enabling it to happen. It’s quite amazing.
Downtown Pittsburgh’s restaurant scene continues to thrive. Offices have not closed. The office workers are working from home. There is a big difference. Restaurants have closed as they always do. New restaurants have opened replacing those that closed. Downtown apartments construction continues. Mounted police and saturated patrols appear to be working. It’s quite amazing.
 
Old 03-04-2023, 07:22 AM
 
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That's the only way downtown survives/grows is if you get more downtown living. Office work is never fully returning and those offices might remain but the space needs will be greatly reduced. Either reinvent downtown usage or it will slowly continue to die.
 
Old 03-04-2023, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Downtown Pittsburgh’s restaurant scene continues to thrive. Offices have not closed. The office workers are working from home. There is a big difference. Restaurants have closed as they always do. New restaurants have opened replacing those that closed. Downtown apartments construction continues. Mounted police and saturated patrols appear to be working. It’s quite amazing.
Didn’t say there weren’t restaurants thriving.

Definitely a big difference as there’s less folks downtown due to working from home. Living in fear and shutting it down has consequences, along with the violence that continues.

Appears to be working, yet the violence continues

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That's the only way downtown survives/grows is if you get more downtown living. Office work is never fully returning and those offices might remain but the space needs will be greatly reduced. Either reinvent downtown usage or it will slowly continue to die.
Bingo

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Old 03-04-2023, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania/Maine
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Having the 6th Street bridge closed for a crazy amount of time isn't good either - 2 years with no end in sight? . Whose decision was that?
 
Old 03-04-2023, 05:36 PM
 
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Having the 6th Street bridge closed for a crazy amount of time isn't good either - 2 years with no end in sight? . Whose decision was that?
Periodic maintenance of city infrastructure is required. Not only will the bridge be structurally sound it will also be lit with state of the art LED lighting. The 7th and 9th street bridges will get the same treatment. Temporary inconvenience.
 
Old 03-04-2023, 06:40 PM
 
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Having the 6th Street bridge closed for a crazy amount of time isn't good either - 2 years with no end in sight? . Whose decision was that?
that is the least of any real problem. that is prudence, planning, good government! way out the league of what this thread was originally about!


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Old 03-05-2023, 03:05 AM
 
Location: Etna, PA
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Periodic maintenance of city infrastructure is required. Not only will the bridge be structurally sound it will also be lit with state of the art LED lighting. The 7th and 9th street bridges will get the same treatment. Temporary inconvenience.
The three bridges are County infrastructure, not City.

https://www.pittsburghmagazine.com/b...ister-bridges/
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