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Conservatives are so pathetic. Every problem that pops up during Obama's two terms doesn't automatically parallel to some failure during the two horrific terms of your former village idiot leader.
The oil spill was caused by the previous administration's charter of deregulation where cutting corners to bypass safety regulations was as common as GOP sour grapes. President Obama is doing an excellent job dealing with the problem.
...and don't you forget it either.
Just as much as one could argue that if it weren't for STUPID Leftwing policy, maybe there wouldn't be oil drilling at 5,000 feet in depth, making it that much more difficult to address such a problem.
But hey...those enviro. tree huggies made off shore drilling something that just had to be done way offshore and in deep-ass waters.
So what?
This ongoing oil plumage is a huge catastrophe....as was Katrina and his "handling" of it SUCKS equally as bad as anything Bush could be blamed for.
What would suck more?
Oh yeah....if EVERY ATTEMPTED terrorist act that has occured THIS year in the US......had only been successful each time.
How wouldthis admin. be responding to ALL of it by now?
I defy any person, liberal, conservative, or moderate, to provide good rationale as to why this is not "Obama's Katrina."
I'm looking for good, reasoned, rationale. Do you have any?
You probably need to define what you mean by the vernacular "Katrina", as in loss of life, incompetence in leadership, slow to act, poor management and coordination by the president, between state and federal agencies etc...
I defy any person, liberal, conservative, or moderate, to provide good rationale as to why this is not "Obama's Katrina."
I'm looking for good, reasoned, rationale. Do you have any?
I think there have been several posts that addressed this very well.
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Just as big a mess though for Obama. Sorry, he is the president and all presidents before him have taken the blame for what happened when they were in office. Why does he get a pass?
R-i-g-h-t.
And how many threads/posts have we seen on this forum about Bush keeping us safe for 8 years, or that 9/11 was Clinton's fault, or that the March-November 2001 recession was something that Bush "inherited"?
But to be clear, (1) President Obama doesn't get a pass, and (2) while no rational person would assign blame to anyone for an industrial accident (or natural disaster), President Obama and the federal government clearly have a responsibility to exercise judgment and common sense in making sure that BP stops the gushing oil & bears all costs for the clean-up as well as taking all legal/regulatory actions needed to prevent future accidents.
I think there have been several posts that addressed this very well.
R-i-g-h-t.
And how many threads/posts have we seen on this forum about Bush keeping us safe for 8 years, or that 9/11 was Clinton's fault, or that the March-November 2001 recession was something that Bush "inherited"?
But to be clear, (1) President Obama doesn't get a pass, and (2) while no rational person would assign blame to anyone for an industrial accident (or natural disaster), President Obama and the federal government clearly have a responsibility to exercise judgment and common sense in making sure that BP stops the gushing oil & bears all costs for the clean-up as well as taking all legal/regulatory actions needed to prevent future accidents.
I disagree. Liberals tried to squelch that discussion early on when there were fewer comparisons to be made regarding the government response. Now, 50 days later, the comparison is completely different. Oil is showing up on shores all along the Gulf. The government's slow response is partly culpable. This is a different discussion backed by a completely separate set of events.
I think there have been several posts that addressed this very well.
R-i-g-h-t.
And how many threads/posts have we seen on this forum about Bush keeping us safe for 8 years, or that 9/11 was Clinton's fault, or that the March-November 2001 recession was something that Bush "inherited"?
But to be clear, (1) President Obama doesn't get a pass, and (2) while no rational person would assign blame to anyone for an industrial accident (or natural disaster), President Obama and the federal government clearly have a responsibility to exercise judgment and common sense in making sure that BP stops the gushing oil & bears all costs for the clean-up as well as taking all legal/regulatory actions needed to prevent future accidents.
Right on most every point. What both presidents are expected to do is provide leadership, make prompt and timely decisions
In Obama's case, we expect him to lead and coordinate the containment and clean up effort. He has been failing at this; states do not have the materials and assistance they need.
Obama allowed a third party, BP, to take charge of the situation from the start, when all we need them to do is stop the leak, drill the relief wells, and pay for the clean up. 0bama is relying too much on BP to do everything. BP is a very large corporation, but we need our people coordinating the clean up between the federal government and the states, not some foreign corporation like BP. What if the next leak comes from a Vietnam corporation, or China, are we to allow them to take control and run the show?
I defy any person, liberal, conservative, or moderate, to provide good rationale as to why this is not "Obama's Katrina."
I'm looking for good, reasoned, rationale. Do you have any?
AeroGuyDC !!! ... Precisely Right !
Your emphatic statement regarding "HO's Katrina" is perhaps more profoundly accurate than anyone may realize at this point in time !
The initial TPOTUS response to this "Disaster In The Gulf" at last appears to be excessively "Weak and Amateurish" at best ! ...... May the American People never have to experience a major national crisis from our numerous enemies around the globe during the remainder of this "Goof Troops" time in the WH !!! ARRRRRRRRRRGH !
Bush had warnings about Katrina. He even flew over the damage (correct me if I am wrong) and just looked at it. When we KNEW this was happening, why did it take so freakin long for supplies and help to get to New Orleans?
The response to Katrina was by far the largest- and fastest- rescue effort in U.S. history, with nearly 100,000 emergency personnel arriving on the scene within 3 days of landfall.
Dozens of National Guard and Coast helicopters flew rescue operations that first day- some just 2 hours after Katrina hit the coast. Hoistless army helicopters improvised rescues, carefully hovering on rooftops to pick up survivors. On the ground, guardsmen had to chop their way through, moving trees and recreating roadways.
By the end of the week, 50,000 National Guard troops in the Gulf Coast region had saved 17,000 people and 4,000 Coast Guard personnel saved more than 33,000.
Right on most every point. What both presidents are expected to do is provide leadership, make prompt and timely decisions
In Obama's case, we expect him to lead and coordinate the containment and clean up effort. He has been failing at this; states do not have the materials and assistance they need.
Obama allowed a third party, BP, to take charge of the situation from the start, when all we need them to do is stop the leak, drill the relief wells, and pay for the clean up. 0bama is relying too much on BP to do everything. BP is a very large corporation, but we need our people coordinating the clean up between the federal government and the states, not some foreign corporation like BP. What if the next leak comes from a Vietnam corporation, or China, are we to allow them to take control and run the show?
Well Said !!!!!!!
The WH "Nightmare" continues and it truly appears that absolutely no improvement whatsoever will be forthcoming for the foreseeable future !!! ! OMG What have some of DINO voters done to this great nation !!! Thanks / Old Sgt. Lamar
The response to Katrina was by far the largest- and fastest- rescue effort in U.S. history, with nearly 100,000 emergency personnel arriving on the scene within 3 days of landfall.
Dozens of National Guard and Coast helicopters flew rescue operations that first day- some just 2 hours after Katrina hit the coast. Hoistless army helicopters improvised rescues, carefully hovering on rooftops to pick up survivors. On the ground, guardsmen had to chop their way through, moving trees and recreating roadways.
By the end of the week, 50,000 National Guard troops in the Gulf Coast region had saved 17,000 people and 4,000 Coast Guard personnel saved more than 33,000.
Those numbers don't matter; Bush wasn't physically there within minutes of the levees breaking. This is what seems to matter to the Dems.
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