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The inflammatory rhetoric needs to be scaled back, problem is the people doing it, would lose ratings.
Inflammatory rhetoric, yeah. But not "normal" political discourse, which is what some would like to see. People like Alan Grayson have no business in politics.
But you still don't get it. According to the liberals, no amount of listening to that, no kinds of music lyrics can have the slightest effect. He just preferred that kind of music but it never influenced him. Even if there is a direct link with him and that music - never mind, that's not how censorship works. We must have free speech for anti-USA music, after all -- plenty of people listen to that music and don't decide to kill people. All those people who saw Kilborn's little piece on snipers needed to kill Bush just saw the humor in that, no one could be influenced in any way of course so remember - no censorship of that.
See censorhip must be directed at only what YOU don't like. Never mind that lack of any connection between this guy and conservatives - it's the conservatives who must be silenced. Nevermind that this guy was no conservative, too bad he wasn't but this can still be exploited - because the goal is still censorship. Never mind that actual Tea Party attendees have never committed violent acts, they must be taken out, removed from the debate. Beck must be silenced, Rush must be silenced, every conservative in this country must be silenced.
You see -- THAT IS HOW CENSORSHIP is meant to work.
1 person out of millions does something. The food they ate, the way they were raised, the color of the sky that morning, lots of factors can factor into why they did that thing.
But that doesn't mean we should prevent anyone else from enjoying those things, because one idiot decided to do something stupid.
Saying we should censor music, politicians, banning guns, or cinnamon rolls (if he ate them Saturday morning), for everyone of those other 999,999 people would be stupid.
Inflammatory rhetoric, yeah. But not "normal" political discourse, which is what some would like to see. People like Alan Grayson have no business in politics.
I certainly don't want to get into trading idiots, but I do agree with your assessment of Grayson.
Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and the Tea Party to name a few. They need to look in the mirror and ask themselves if they should change their tone and stick to the facts when they "inform" their listeners. Anyone carrying signs saying ""The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants" are doing it, whether or not they realize it. I am all for free speech, but if you are in a position where millions of people can hear you, you need to remember how the unstable section of the population receives your message.
When you talk about concentration camps like Beck did, or call Dems communists, Marxists, "the enemy", anti-American etc, you can be assured that some people take it as fact.
And yes, MSNBC was guilty of the same when Bush was president, and I couldn't stand it.
I have never seen so much hatred in this country.
Excllent Post and I agree 100%.
Both sides have gone down this ugly path but today the rhetoric seems to have no limits. Some can attempt to discount that what some of the talking heads say has any affect on those that listen, but some of us have seen how the rhetoric has changed those we have discussed political issues with for years. Those I speak of are far more radical in thier thinking than they were in years past. On discussion boards that do not have strict rules of conduct, as this one does, we have seen how much hate is really present, it is why nearly all moderates and rational thinking people avoid such sites. I hope the curent events wake up a few people to realize that when one spews or listens to hate long enough it can have an adverse affect on those doing so and those around them. There will always be weakminded crackpots such as the shooter in AZ and as rational thinking people we should realize that feeding their paranoid fears is a bad idea and within our capacity to stop.
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What is SO difficult to grasp that Palin hasn't EVER been mentioned by this guy...
And yet people STILL want to consider her an influence.
The actual influences in his life are however in no way influenced him...
That is just pure partisanship.
Well yes - but if the liberal media manages to twist things enough, their sheep will be manipulated by it. Pure filthy dirty politics. Yes they would have preferred to have discovered some kind of link with Palin - Palin is obviously the target on this one, but sadly there is no link. Another link to some conservative would have been great but oh well. Something might come up - maybe they'll find his grandfather once voted for Reagan or something.
Still - can't let a good incident go to waste, the agenda is all that matters. Truth? hah - doesn't mean a thing.
The vitriolic hyperbole has always been there yet you don't see this happen everyday.
That should clue you in on what caused this and that this kid was freaking nutso.
Another clue that he is nutso is his incoherent messages and completely contradictory stances on political ideas and political leaders.
And yet one more clue that he is nutso is that he actually carried a gun to a store, where this congresswoman was, and shot her in the head and then killed an innocent little girl and numerous other elderly people and critically injured 13 others.
He's whacked and he decided himself what he wanted to listen to and read and watch and think which likely mimics his own thoughts more than putting thoughts into his head.
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1 person out of millions does something. The food they ate, the way they were raised, the color of the sky that morning, lots of factors can factor into why they did that thing.
But that doesn't mean we should prevent anyone else from enjoying those things, because one idiot decided to do something stupid.
Saying we should censor music, politicians, banning guns, or cinnamon rolls (if he ate them Saturday morning), for everyone of those other 999,999 people would be stupid.
Yes you are right - it's ONLY all conservatives who must be censored. Because one word out of their mouths can influence. Yes - I get it now.
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