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Old 06-20-2011, 07:38 PM
 
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Have you ever heard of the Salvation Army? They operate shelters throughout the U.S. Also, almost every city has shelters and soup kitchens run by other religious groups. The Catholic church has the St. Vincent DePaul Society and other religious orders of nuns dedicated to helping homeless people. Have you heard of Mother Teresa? There are numerous churches that do provide shelter in their basements and rec centers. Why don't they want people sleeping on pews? Because many homeless have very poor hygiene, are often drunk and urinate wherever they want, get in fights and damage property etc. etc. Believe it or not, church interiors are considered sacred spaces by many and a certain standard of behavior is expected which most homeless people are unwilling or unable to maintain.
How many homeless people are sleeping in your house?
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Old 06-20-2011, 07:38 PM
 
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And so you think all churches are wealthy? You must live in a very tiny world. Try getting out more.
I think they all have benches and doors which could provide a respite from the streets.
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Old 06-20-2011, 07:38 PM
 
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How many homeless people have you known?

They are not the sort that you would trust to be left around civilized people.
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Old 06-20-2011, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Murfreesboro (nearer Smyrna), TN
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Separation of Church and State. The GOP does not run the churches.
While I agree that the GOP does not run the churches, the "Separation of Church and State" is BS. The goal of the 2nd Amendment is to keep Gov't out of religion as much as possible, not separating religion FROM every aspect of life, seeming as the libs like to do. What this means is that the Fed. Gov't should have no say as to whether someone can have organized prayer in school, for example. Well after, meaning 50 years or so, the Constitution went into effect (1789), some states had there own religions. It wasn't a big deal until the "Anti-God" movement from the libs and/or antheists.

Anyway, back to the subject at hand. The OP seems to be saying that the churches need to take in the homeless in droves and keep them indefinately. The goal is not to take the in and house and feed them forever. This is why is looks like the churches aren't doing anything about the problem. Many churches have programs that take people in and help them for short times, or pay to help non-profits that do this. The people go through programs to get on their feet and even get jobs. When the programs end, they leave and generally do better from there on out. So, it isn't like the Fed Gov't where they pay for people's food, housing and whatever else (or some of these things) seemingly forever and create a dependent class that can been seen by society in general.

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Old 06-20-2011, 07:40 PM
 
Location: mancos
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Things must be getting pretty bad out there when after labeling Churches right wing fox news watchers who lock out the homeless beg for help from those you insulted and lied about. freaking Amazing
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Old 06-20-2011, 07:41 PM
 
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Have you ever heard of the Salvation Army? They operate shelters throughout the U.S. Also, almost every city has shelters and soup kitchens run by other religious groups. The Catholic church has the St. Vincent DePaul Society and other religious orders of nuns dedicated to helping homeless people. Have you heard of Mother Teresa? There are numerous churches that do provide shelter in their basements and rec centers. Why don't they want people sleeping on pews? Because many homeless have very poor hygiene, are often drunk and urinate wherever they want, get in fights and damage property etc. etc. Believe it or not, church interiors are considered sacred spaces by many and a certain standard of behavior is expected which most homeless people are unwilling or unable to maintain.
How many homeless people are sleeping in your house?
For safety reasons? None. But if I had security, maybe it would be a different story.

I am QUITE familiar with those organizations you mention, as I volunteered for the country's fifth largest homeless campus.

Do you remember the story of the money changers? Somehow I doubt that Jesus would think it a shame to have to spray Febreeze.
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Old 06-20-2011, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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I think this statement says it alone.

Just what are they SUPPOSED to be spending their money on? The scriptures or something else? I mean, the scriptures DO dictate that those of lesser means be helped by those of greater means.
Utilities, supplies, and repairs are a part of a church's operational budget. They don't hoard extra cash. Some goes to operating shelters, some goes into a rainy day fund for things like helping a family whose home has burned down. Following hurricanes Katrina and Rita, it was churches that were providing the fastest aid in the form of shelter, food, clothing, diapers, and clean drinking water. Their resources were bled dry until people began donating what they could.
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Old 06-20-2011, 07:44 PM
 
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How many homeless people have you known?

They are not the sort that you would trust to be left around civilized people.
I used to volunteer at a homeless shelter. Some of the nicest people I've ever met. They were truly grateful for what they got, and their stories were quite varied.
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Old 06-20-2011, 07:45 PM
 
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Utilities, supplies, and repairs are a part of a church's operational budget. They don't hoard extra cash. Some goes to operating shelters, some goes into a rainy day fund for things like helping a family whose home has burned down. Following hurricanes Katrina and Rita, it was churches that were providing the fastest aid in the form of shelter, food, clothing, diapers, and clean drinking water. Their resources were bled dry until people began donating what they could.
Well, I live in a state with no natural disasters and I don't see any churches with their doors open to the homeless. And this is getting off topic. I think it's fair to say that the churches are NOT picking up their fair share of slack. Yet the right wingers want to do away with safety nets.
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Old 06-20-2011, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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Well, I live in a state with no natural disasters and I don't see any churches with their doors open to the homeless. And this is getting off topic. I think it's fair to say that the churches are NOT picking up their fair share of slack. Yet the right wingers want to do away with safety nets.
Really, what state do you live in that has no hurricanes, tornadoes, earth quakes, wild fires, flooding, or blizzards?
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