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Old 09-02-2011, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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You have the Democrats pushing wealth re-distribution Marxist style and in addition they spend money they don't have and raid the Social Security deposits.
Sounds like it is ALL about the money to me.

Blacks used to vote Republican through the 50s until the Democrats who hosed them out of schools started to bribe them with great society money. They took the money and now instead of 75% two parent homes they have 15% two parents homes. They had the unions require a minimum wage which left poor skilled poor people very unemployed.
Again, it is all about the money and as far as Democrats are concerned, it is about controlling the people. Everything through the government.
Well, a lot of it does involve politics, but you are mostly right, it is primarily about money. You certainly cannot have government without money, which is why taxes are an "evil" necessity. It is what Congress does with our tax dollars that should give people the right to vote. If someone does not contribute and is only a parasite on society, they should have absolutely no say on how Congress spends those tax dollars because none of it is theirs.
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:05 PM
 
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Children must obey their parents, and they get no vote on the matter. Every foreigner that visits the US is subject to US law, and they have no say. Only those who actually contribute should have a voice.
I am mildly shocked that you actually expressed this openly without shame. Freedom, in the most basic American sense of the word, means that you get to participate in the government that you are subject to. Of course, nine year olds aren't mature enough to participate yet. Poor people aren't nine.
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:05 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I partly agree. NO REPRESENATION WITHOUT TAXATION. You should not be entitled to vote for services you don't pay for.
I completely agree. A LOT of people are totally fed up with an increasingly larger percentage of the population that elects whoever promises them the most freebies. It's an UGLY perversion of democracy.

Completely unsustainable, as well.
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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I wonder if Vadum is nearly as concerned with the huge numbers of middle-class people who don't vote? People do a lot of talking about the margin of victory for Obama in the last Presidential election--but take a look at the numbers of votes cast. 6.5 million to 5.5 million. That's twelve million votes...in a country with a population of more than 275 million. Never mind poor people; hardly anyone is actually getting up off their behinds and casting votes any more.
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:14 PM
 
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I wonder if Vadum is nearly as concerned with the huge numbers of middle-class people who don't vote? People do a lot of talking about the margin of victory for Obama in the last Presidential election--but take a look at the numbers of votes cast. 6.5 million to 5.5 million. That's twelve million votes...in a country with a population of more than 275 million. Never mind poor people; hardly anyone is actually getting up off their behinds and casting votes any more.
About 54 percent of the voting age population voted in 2008 -- around 123,000,000 million votes.
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:16 PM
 
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Right-wing fascists openly declaring that poor people shouldn't be able to vote, and with the gall to unironically make remarks about "perversion[s] of democracy". Hilarious.
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:23 PM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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Matthew Vadum, a leading crusader against "Acorn" and alleged "urban voter fraud", apparently feels bold enough these days to spell out the REAL agenda: poor people in America have no business voting in the first place. They just make "bad choices", that wind up costing the "producers" of society money, by voting for Democrats, and useless things like social justice and equal rights.

Finally, the "voter ID/ voter fraud" legislation sweeping the Red States (courtesy of ALEC, the arch-conservative American Legislative Executive Counsel) gets exposed for what it really is: a Randian Corporate Elite campaign to repeal universal suffrage (one at-risk voter block at a time) in favor of an aristocracy in America.

All part and parcel of the Corporate Overlords and their GOP handmaidens' plan to return the US to the "gilded age" of..., well I used to say 19th Century, but this crapola means we're headed back to the 18th Century now.

Articles: Registering the Poor to Vote is Un-American
Sad, but not surprising. Among many on the right, hatred for the poor--working or not--is an article of faith.
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:27 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Right-wing fascists openly declaring that poor people shouldn't be able to vote, and with the gall to unironically make remarks about "perversion[s] of democracy". Hilarious.
What would you call it when people can vote themselves freebies? So much, in fact, that they're bankrupting our nation, causing so much deficit spending that our country's credit rating has been downgraded?
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:29 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Matthew Vadum, a leading crusader against "Acorn" and alleged "urban voter fraud", apparently feels bold enough these days to spell out the REAL agenda: poor people in America have no business voting in the first place. They just make "bad choices", that wind up costing the "producers" of society money, by voting for Democrats, and useless things like social justice and equal rights.

Finally, the "voter ID/ voter fraud" legislation sweeping the Red States (courtesy of ALEC, the arch-conservative American Legislative Executive Counsel) gets exposed for what it really is: a Randian Corporate Elite campaign to repeal universal suffrage (one at-risk voter block at a time) in favor of an aristocracy in America.

All part and parcel of the Corporate Overlords and their GOP handmaidens' plan to return the US to the "gilded age" of..., well I used to say 19th Century, but this crapola means we're headed back to the 18th Century now.

Articles: Registering the Poor to Vote is Un-American

I disagree, but i do believe that only properties owners should be allowed to vote. that does not include corporations or goverments.
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Montgomery Village
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Are you guys serious? You call poor people parasites and you call poor people willing to stay on the dole for some government money. Then out the other side of your mouth you spew crap like "the democrats are hurting business and people can't find jobs. Its all the democrats fault!" So which is it? are poor people parasites or are they unfortunate casualties of a bad economy?

Oh, I would like to see some numbers of the poor and what their political affiliation is. You guys come here and act like the democrats get the majority of their votes from poor people on welfare and its skewing the results much to the detriment of hard working Republicans. I'm sure the numbers are split pretty evenly with wealth among the two major political parties. But, you know, facts don't matter on this site.
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