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I don't think anyone feels that the right to vote should actually be revoked, but more just griping about the way their vote impacts society.
I hate anectodal evidence, book, because it doesn't amount to anything -- but for realsies, the only people I have ever known on welfare vote Republican. I grew up in a very poor area, but I'm white, so the people I have known on welfare were white poor people. They voted for Jesus or against the gays or whatever. It baffled me, but that was the case. I can't tell you how many times I've heard the argument that the GOP is looking out for poor white people and protecting them from the "liberal elite" from white welfare folks.
To me, the fact that we expect poor people to obey American laws is the end-all argument for why they deserve to vote. As Americans, we don't ask people to be subject to laws without having the opportunity to shape those laws. That's as fundamentally American as you can get. However, one poster said that children have to obey their parents without getting a say, so poor people have to obey their masters without getting a say too.
I still can't believe that poster actually said that.
I hate anectodal evidence, book, because it doesn't amount to anything -- but for realsies, the only people I have ever known on welfare vote Republican. I grew up in a very poor area, but I'm white, so the people I have known on welfare were white poor people. They voted for Jesus or against the gays or whatever. It baffled me, but that was the case. I can't tell you how many times I've heard the argument that the GOP is looking out for poor white people and protecting them from the "liberal elite" from white welfare folks.
I agree. I have had the same experience. I just attribute this to great propaganda tools like talk radio and fox news.
Another fantasyland comment. If a person has no money and nothing to seel all he or she can do is offer his or services to someone else. If no one is hiring, there is a problem.
lol. Jobs poor people create with no sort of funding or capital: Prostitution, Robbery, Begging, and revolution.
Matthew Vadum, a leading crusader against "Acorn" and alleged "urban voter fraud", apparently feels bold enough these days to spell out the REAL agenda: poor people in America have no business voting in the first place. They just make "bad choices", that wind up costing the "producers" of society money, by voting for Democrats, and useless things like social justice and equal rights.
Finally, the "voter ID/ voter fraud" legislation sweeping the Red States (courtesy of ALEC, the arch-conservative American Legislative Executive Counsel) gets exposed for what it really is: a Randian Corporate Elite campaign to repeal universal suffrage (one at-risk voter block at a time) in favor of an aristocracy in America.
All part and parcel of the Corporate Overlords and their GOP handmaidens' plan to return the US to the "gilded age" of..., well I used to say 19th Century, but this crapola means we're headed back to the 18th Century now.
I agree. I have had the same experience. I just attribute this to great propaganda tools like talk radio and fox news.
Poor whites will take whatever government assitance they can get while cursing the evil government and damn Democrats for giving blacks everything when poor white people like them have it so hard. I'm painting with a broad brush here, but this has been my experience -- and my experience with poor white people is pretty extensive. I'm not talking about southerners here either. I grew up in a poor area of California.
Another fantasyland comment. If a person has no money and nothing to seel all he or she can do is offer his or services to someone else. If no one is hiring, there is a problem.
Sounds like you give up way too easily. Create your own job. Millions of people do it every year.
lol. Jobs poor people create with no sort of funding or capital: Prostitution, Robbery, Begging, and revolution.
Wow. Tell that to my neighbor's college-age kid who mows lawns, plants landscaping, shovels snow (over the holidays), walks dogs, and performs handyman chores to support himself and put himself through school.
Some people are industrious, and have initiative, drive, and personal responsibility. Others simply shove their hands out for more freebies.
I completely agree. A LOT of people are totally fed up with an increasingly larger percentage of the population that elects whoever promises them the most freebies. It's an UGLY perversion of democracy.
Completely unsustainable, as well.
Exactly! You are right and Obama is a good example.
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