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Old 03-29-2012, 02:15 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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Your being disingenuous with my comment.

Did you through stupidity or forgetfullness run out of your meds?

Try going back and reading my WHOLE post.
It's not disingenuous to expose the problems with your line of thinking. You want to blame people for their own ills-- But in the case of me as a 36 year old getting colon cancer, it doesn't quite work.

So since you're so genuine, tell me what the system should do about a 36 year old with cancer who doesn't have $138,000 laying around to take "personal responsibility."
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Old 03-29-2012, 02:23 PM
 
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But not the only role. More importantly, forcing to buy a product is fine if you select "the right" industry.


Still selling a product.
That was voluntary! I hope you understand the difference.
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Old 03-29-2012, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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That was voluntary! I hope you understand the difference.
Still a product. Or, should I call it free advertisement?
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Old 03-29-2012, 02:31 PM
 
Location: southern california
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the issue in the decision is tht americans are not willing to accept consequences for their own actions.
if somebody does not pay they should not get the service, but we dont operate that way.
we have to "do the right thing". land of the eternal 2nd chance.
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Old 03-29-2012, 02:32 PM
 
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Still a product. Or, should I call it free advertisement?
Okay, a product; there are millions of products that I'm not forced to buy. I don't remember any specific company or package being advertised but maybe I'm wrong - certainly not as much as the Chevy Volt.
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Old 03-29-2012, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Okay, a product; there are millions of products that I'm not forced to buy. I don't remember any specific company or package being advertised but maybe I'm wrong - certainly not as much as the Chevy Volt.
But some you're and you appear to be fine with it. Would you have been fine with public option, or simply tax based like Medicare? Or, is Medicare still a product that you're forced into?

Well, we all know that people can choose to remain healthy forever, and that there is such thing as "available to all" health care. The good thing is, neither costs the country anything and spells out the best possible scenario to govern. Sorta satisfies that pesky "necessary and proper" clause.
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Old 03-29-2012, 02:37 PM
 
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USA is finished. FINISHED.
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Old 03-29-2012, 02:46 PM
 
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It's not disingenuous to expose the problems with your line of thinking. You want to blame people for their own ills-- But in the case of me as a 36 year old getting colon cancer, it doesn't quite work.

So since you're so genuine, tell me what the system should do about a 36 year old with cancer who doesn't have $138,000 laying around to take "personal responsibility."
My goodness.

READING COMPREHENSION liberals!!! practice it.

I was faulting the poster for allowing his meds to run out thus forcing him/her to the emergency room because of an asthma attack, thus triggering the costly ER visit because of their own irresponsibility. Not because they have an illness.

Go back and reread . Sheesh get a clue.
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Old 03-29-2012, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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My goodness.

READING COMPREHENSION liberals!!! practice it.

I was faulting the poster for allowing his meds to run out thus forcing him/her to the emergency room because of an asthma attack, thus triggering the costly ER visit because of their own irresponsibility. Not because they have an illness.

Go back and reread . Sheesh get a clue.
Try to handle the argument presented with that little integrity you might have some claim to. Or, do you realize you're better served avoiding the conversation?
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Old 03-29-2012, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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That would be your perception of it, either way, your wrong on both fronts. The stupid insurance company paid the entire bill which I called them and disputed it as being ridiculous, 4 Grand for 10 minutes of breathing steroids out of a tube.
Sounds to me like you're still trying to palm the responsiblity off on anyone but yourself -- Please grow up!
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