Ken Bennett, Arizona Secretary Of State, Gets Response From Hawaii On Obama Birth Certificate Request (death, Barack Hussein Obama)

[SHABAZZ310]

Originally Posted by wrecking ball

gov jan brewer vetoed AZ's "birther bill".

Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer vetoes 'birther' bill, says veiled attack on Obama goes 'too far' - New York Daily News



i'm not sure how you define "obscure" but jill nagamine is the deputy attorney general for the state of HI.



apparently not. if you didn't see this earlier here is what ken bennett had to say this afternoon:

"If I embarrassed the state, I apologize, but that certainly wasn’t my intent. He’ll be on the ballot as long as he fills out the same paperwork and does the same things that everybody else has."

Secretary of State Ken Bennett Backs Off Birther Threat, Aplogizes To Arizona | TPMMuckraker



there have been 13 ballot challenges to date. all have failed including one in AZ:

AZ - 2012-03-07 - Allen v Obama C20121317 - ORDER Dismissing Complaint

Play games about Bennet but remember that his was just doing his job as required by Arizona law.



a physical certified COLB and LFBC have been submitted to the court in orly taitz's mississippi ballot challenge appeal.



please name the states that have passed such bills.

Wrecking ball, you eat these birthers alive. You’ve outclassed every opponent in every single exchange.

[ibarrio]

Originally Posted by wrecking ball

oooof!

this will only agitate the birthers. neither bennett or hawaii say exactly what form the verification took.

bennett just opened a family-size can of birther freak-out.

local news said the proof will be posted online.

[wrecking ball]

Originally Posted by ibarrio

local news said the proof will be posted online.

nice, please keep us up to date.


altho past experience tells me to prepare for a new branch of forgery allegations.

[wrecking ball]

Originally Posted by SHABAZZ310

Wrecking ball, you eat these birthers alive. You’ve outclassed every opponent in every single exchange.

thanks. i just try and stick to claims that can be supported, avoid speculation ( or at least make clear that it is as such ) and refrain from lobbing insults.

plus it's great exercise in the art of patience.

[moving_pains]

[justNancy]

Originally Posted by ibarrio

local news said the proof will be posted online.

In a way, I think providing this proof gives the lunatics more power. That's why people write "don't feed the trolls" on an internet forum. The more you answer a troll, the more he's encouraged to write outrageous comments.

I know it was probably the right thing to do, but every time the people on the fringe are appeased, they're also being acknowledged.

[FancyFeast5000]

Originally Posted by justNancy

In a way, I think providing this proof gives the lunatics more power. That's why people write "don't feed the trolls" on an internet forum. The more you answer a troll, the more he's encouraged to write outrageous comments.

I know it was probably the right thing to do, but every time the people on the fringe are appeased, they're also being acknowledged.

Yeah, but, the birthers are more than just trolls on the internet I think. Seems there are people who believe this birther nonsense who never use the internet.

There is something to be said for confronting and disproving the lies even if it requires disproving the same lies over and over and over again. CD is the perfect example. The same lies keep getting posted again and again. I think some people really don't realize that some of the things they're heard or believe about Obama's birth and life have actually been very well researched, and the lies have been debunked.

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by steven_h

Considering that the birther movement was started by Clinton backers, who are decidedly Liberal... you are probably right.

Wrong.

The Birther movement was started on the right-wing Internet forum FreeRepublic on March 1, 2008. The PUMAs did not pick it up until months later, and they have always been a tiny part of the decidedly conservative meme.

[skoro]

Originally Posted by ibarrio

Hawaii sends Arizona verification of Obama's birth

done deal. see you birthers later...lol

The birthers will simply declare those state-authenticated documents to be forgeries, as they have with all prior submissions.

Their ignorance is their most prized possession.

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by skoro

The birthers will simply declare those state-authenticated documents to be forgeries, as they have with all prior submissions.

They already are. The Birther web sites this morning are filling with crap like this:

I truly doubt this was a true vital document but some statement to the fact that Hawaii has something on file that says Obama was born there.

Hawaiian law provides that anyone can say they witnessed a birth in the state and they will provide a birth certificate.

In Obama's case, it's 'GIGO' or Garbage In Garbage Out.

16 posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:27:05 PM by Red Steel

So...exactly what did they do? Prove the record they provided earlier, which Sheriff Joe's people investigaated and said was a fake was actually real? Did they provide another document of birth?

Did they have pictures, did they have DNA, did they have unrefutable eye-witness testimony?

How did they verify it?

And what is this part about the Arizona Secretary of State apologizing for embarassing the state for a conspiracy theory fueled campaign? Is that what he said?

Sorry, all of this sounds completely fabricated and if the Arizona Sec of State did reverse, then it is because other ofrces are at work here somehow. They haven't had time to verify whatever it is Hawaii may have provided.

19 posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:30:11 PM by Jeff Head

Originally Posted by skoro

Their ignorance is their most prized possession.

And they certainly will not give it up just because one State is satisfied with what another State has provided.