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Old 05-23-2012, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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This is interesting and troubling.
Interesting? Yes. Troubling? Only to those who would bastardize the Constitution in deference to their own prejudices.

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Arizona did not ask Hawaii to “VERIFY” anything.
Oh? Perhaps you should go back and review the correspondence between them. Here... since you seem to have certain research deficits, let be help you. Here's the March 30th letter... emphasis added:

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Hawaii Department of Health
Office of Health Status Monitoring
Vital Records Issuance Section
P.O. Box 3378
Honolulu, HI 96801

Ladies and gentlemen:

Enclosed please find a request for a verification in lieu of a certified copy for the birth record of Barack Hussein Obama II. In addition to the items to be verified in the attached form, please verify the following items from the record of birth:

Department of Health File #151 61 10641
Time of birth: 7:24 p.m.
Name of hospital: Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital
Age of father: 25
Birthplace of Father: Kenya, East Africa
Age of mother: 18
Birthplace of mother: Wichita, Kansas
Date of signature of parent: 8-7-1961
Date of signature of attendant: 8-8-1961
Date accepted by local registrar: August-8 1961

Additionally, please verify that the attached copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for Mr. Obama is a true and accurate representation of the original record in your files.

Thank you for your assistance in this matter.

Sincerely,
Ken Bennett
Arizona Secretary of State
Gosh.... for not asking Hawaii to verify anything, he sure used the word "verify" a lot.





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Originally Posted by Lawyer Disciple
Arizona asked Hawaii to “CERTIFY” Obama’s date, time and specific place of birth as well as the names of the birth parents as listed on the certificate of live birth and the name of the attending physician.
Where exactly do you see that in the above letter? Oh... perhaps it is in the subsequent correspondence... let me check.

Nope. Not there either. As usual, you are making stuff as you go. It has always seemed to be your policy that the simple truth will never do when a deliberate and gratuitous lie can be substituted instead.

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Originally Posted by Lawyer Disciple
The difference between “verifying” and “certifying” is legal integrity and the attendant perjury penalties. That is a big difference. Nobody has 'certified' anything to Ken Bennett as far as we know. He needs to make the information he received from Hawaii available to the public.
There you go... making stuff up again.

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Old 05-23-2012, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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Once again proving irrefutably that birthers will only accept evidence which reinforces what they already believe. Only in birther-world would a 21 year old bio-blurb from a pamphlet hold more weight than a state certified record of birth.
Birthers have rendered satire obsolete.
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Old 05-23-2012, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Oh I know what I am talking about.


You're killing us here!!!!!!!

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Old 05-23-2012, 10:51 AM
 
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You're killing us here!!!!!!!
How did Hawaii allegedly verify his birth to Bennett?
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Old 05-23-2012, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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How did Hawaii verify his birth to Bennett?
However they did it, it was acceptable. It was exactly what Bennet asked for, therefore this topic is pretty much closed.
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Old 05-23-2012, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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How did Hawaii verify his birth?
Ask Bennett. I'm sure he'll be thrilled to let you know!

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Old 05-23-2012, 10:59 AM
 
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How did Hawaii allegedly verify his birth to Bennett?
They didn't and have essentially told Bennett to pound sand, which is why he has basically abandoned the whole charade.

Secretary of State Ken Bennett Backs Off Birther Threat, Aplogizes To Arizona | TPMMuckraker
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Old 05-23-2012, 11:00 AM
 
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However they did it, it was acceptable.
Proof is needed to how they allegedly verifyed his birth. Bennett needs to release that information. Maybe he will do it this afternoon.
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Old 05-23-2012, 11:24 AM
 
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Proof is needed to how they allegedly verifyed his birth. Bennett needs to release that information. Maybe he will do it this afternoon.
I advice reading the last post in the thread before posting so that you don't appear to be the out of date stooge in those 4g commercials.

It's over, Bennett has retreated back into his hole. Game, set and match for the umpteenth time.
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Old 05-23-2012, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Bennett needs to release that information.
No.

No he doesn't.

Not that it'll do any good, because idiot birthers will call it a forgery anyways.
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