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I remember my dad telling me that had he been involved in the motorcycle accident that I was involved in when I was in my mid -20s (I was critically injured), that HE would have seen it coming and would have escaped unscathed. He died less than a year later, in a fire that the fire marshal seemed to think was caused by careless smoking. The lesson? Save your judgment. It may come back to haunt you and those who love you.
Post: man kills 3 with knife
Mindless Partisan Retard: sounds like a (insert political party here)
I don't know what happens to people to make them see everything in the world as an angle to how it can be blamed on the opposite political team but they are truly pathetic.
Yeah and I used to be a bouncer and I can tell you, I'd much rather be presented with a knife than a gun.
Your post reminds me of some of the posts here after the Aurora theater shooting. IIRC, a couple of posters here stated that had a couple of the patrons been armed, they would have been able to bring down Holmes more quickly, possibly even before the poor 7 year old was killed (I think a few responders stated that they themselves could have brought him down). This despite: 1) the near pure darkness that envelops most theaters when movie is on; 2) the tear gas Holmes tossed is; 3) the panicking throngs of people who likely may have been in front of you considering that Holmes was at the front of the theater.
If LEOs can injure 9 people firing on a suspect less than 10ft away on a clear morning, who is to say that the Aurora theater shooting wouldn't have been exponentially worse if patrons had been armed?
I'm not a cop hater or even against CCW, but whenever posts an argument that an armed civilian could have taken down an attacker in a situation like the Aurora shooting, I have to roll my eyes. Still, I'd expect better from trained LEOs. Innocent bystanders are STILL in the hospital due to being shot by cops-that's not okay and should be looked into.
I find it rather stunning that people actiually think they can do more good than harm in these situations, this was in broad daylight with trained officers. Just imagine what could have happened in Colorado with armed patrons firing away in a smoke filled dark theatre.
I find it rather stunning that people actiually think they can do more good than harm in these situations, this was in broad daylight with trained officers. Just imagine what could have happened in Colorado with armed patrons firing away in a smoke filled dark theatre.
Trained? LMAO. Apparantly not.
Also, people seriously need to stop portraying LICENSED concealed carry people as if there would be dozens of them in the theatre shooting wildly.
There was a church shooter that was stopped this way a few years back and numerous other examples.
So basically, there are ZERO examples of what you claim and literally dozens of examples of CC people stoping crimes without firing wildly all over the place or even having to fire at all. Yet you are pushing the former scenario? Why?
I think you've been buying into "scary stories" and have little experience surrounding guns or the topic at hand.
How many examples of armed civilians shooting an armed suspect during a public attack? Especially one like this or the one that occurred in Aurora where dozens of innocent bystanders/victims are close by/running around? I think I may have heard of an incident where a security guard stopped an armed student during a school shooting, but I'm not sure, and plus, that was a child.
A concealed firearm is a great equalizer in many situations...
71 year old man captured on video stopping two armed robbers
I agree re: Bloomberg, but those cops are idiots too. The shooter wasn't shooting & he was 10 FEET away! And the cops still can't keep their rounds on target! I've been in gunfights! Those cops should be fired! A fundamental rule of gun fighting is to keep the front sight on the target. They didn't. They were firing wildly, recklessly with no regard to innocent life. No excuse!
And again, if it had been civilians doing EXACTLY the same thing those civilians would be in jail. Or shot (at) by other cops! Double standard. Again.
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Bloomberg is an idiot but based upon the video the police had little option other than to do what they did.
Also, people seriously need to stop portraying LICENSED concealed carry people as if there would be dozens of them in the theatre shooting wildly.
There was a church shooter that was stopped this way a few years back and numerous other examples.
So basically, there are ZERO examples of what you claim and literally dozens of examples of CC people stoping crimes without firing wildly all over the place or even having to fire at all. Yet you are pushing the former scenario? Why?
I think you've been buying into "scary stories" and have little experience surrounding guns or the topic at hand.
Yes they were trained but no one can really train for this type of situation, the speed with which it came down and the confusion are all part of the problem. This is a once in a life time for most, maybe a few more for some. It's easy to critcize from behind a keyboard but tougher in real life.
The point is that many on the Colorado thread were arguing they could have made a difference, if only they were there, and yes there are examples of CC types killing innocent bystanders accidentally, not scary stories, just actual facts.
One rare incident... Yes there are people that have the ability to sustain quite a bit of fire, however, they're rather rare. Furthermore, it's pretty obvious whether somebody is doing down for the count versus returning fire, so I am in a position to judge here from behind my keyboard.
The New York police officers who fatally shot a knife-wielding man after he escaped arrest near Times Square did what they were trained to do, city officials and experts on police procedure said Sunday.
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