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It does not. In fact many of the members of Trinity that I'm aware of are quite successful and I've heard several attributing their success to the preaching of Rev. Wright.
I even heard a prior member became President of the United States at a time when many believed that a black man couldn't achieve that feat.
Trinity UCC has a huge emphases on assisting youth to complete High School and go onto College in order that they too could lead successful lives.
Are you saying that isn't true or are you saying Cab drivers are justified in their actions.
I would like to point out that Obama went back to get his law degree after attending Trinity UCC.
From Stephen Mansfield's (who has actually attended services at Trinity) book "The Faith of Barack Obama".
Obama would also find at Trinity encouragement for his intellectual and professional quest. It is not a coincidence that he attended Harvard, practiced law, ran for public office in Illinois, and sought the presidency all after his connection to Trinity began. Trinity called for people to rise, created an environment of learning and achievement, and modeled the pursuit of intellectual excellence. Another pastor might joke about a seminary being a cemetery and about how believers could "get their learning and lose their burning." Jeremiah Wright, a man with four earned degrees, used, as Obama later wrote, "twenty-five-cent words" with regularity. He hired only well-educated staff, put university professors in charge of Sunday school classes, and worked to send the youth of his church to the most reputable schools in the land. Understanding a single Jeremiah Wright sermon might require knowing something of Middle East history, Greek, Hebrew, the amendments to the U.S. Constitution, the causes of World War II, the politics of the Sudan, and the details of how syphilis is spread. Obama thrived in such an environment. It fueled his intellectual curiosity, answered his theological questions, and honored his intention to rise on the strength of his mind.
Clearly you are not aware of all the work Rev. Wright and other people from Trinity have done. And self-loathing? When you find the means to succeed and overcome you normally are self loathing.
Yet, Trinity UCC has some 70 ministries many of which are focused on helping people overcome the issues that are keeping them in poverty.
Aren't we all victims of injustice.. .I just want Black people to take their real power back and stop playing the victim.
Aren't we all victims of injustice.. .I just want Black people to take their real power back and stop playing the victim.
Yet for some reason it bothers you and you feel you must attack a church and its minister who has enabled and encouraged thousands of people to rise up and assume a position of equality.
Rev. Wright believes and follows Jesus Christ. Rev. Wright's beliefs have been influenced by multiple theologians, including Dr. Cone. Taking words out of Dr. Cone's mouth and putting them in Rev. Wright's is no more valid than taking words out of Rev. Wright's mouth and putting them in Obama's mouth.
Theologically, I bet if you quizzed the members of Trinity and its ministers you would not find a total uniformity of beliefs. Neither the UCC nor Trinity require a uniformity of beliefs.
I heard the words that came out of reverend wrights mouth and they are just as disturbing.
There is literally no politician from either the Dems or the Repubs that could've done a better job than Obama did.
Our political climate is that bad.
Sorry to burst your bubble Obama made it worse going after his green energy agenda and pushing through his Obamacare.. His lack of helping to create jobs- keystone pipeline, only 33% of leases to drill for oil passed .. we are in big trouble.. and Obama disarming us to sling shots..a no nuclear weapon president is in the white house.. plus for not creating jobs another avalanche of home mortgage foreclosures.. tens of thousands more coming and the American middle class is damaged for years to come.
Well, thanks for that. Yes, it is a very "good choir."
Some people accuse us of being polytheistic, and this is probably because we do not accept the creedal definitions of God (i.e. the Nicene Creed, the Athanasian Creed, etc.). We definitely do believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ and in the Holy Ghost, but we see them as being physically distinct from one another. We see their unity as being a "oneness of will, purpose, power and glory," but not of "substance." We believe that the Father, Son and Holy Ghost share the name of "God" and function as "God," working together as "one," in a state of absolute harmony and perfect unity. We believe that all three existed "in the beginning", i.e. at the time our universe was created. We believe the Father to be the supreme member of the Godhead, the Son (or the Word) to be our Savior and Redeemer, and the Holy Ghost to be the comforter and revelator. Because we see them as three individuals, each of whom can rightfully be called "God," people say we believe in multiple gods. We also believe that the Father is the "supreme God," which is exactly what the Bible teaches.
Probably from anti-Mormon websites. For a number of years, the LDS Church held what I believe to have been a doctrine rooted in racism: Black men were not permitted to hold the Church's lay priesthood. (They actually were able to do so during the early years of Mormonism, but there were many years when a ban was in place.) During the period of time when they could not hold the priesthood, Blacks were allowed to join the Church, and never in our 182-year history have we had segregated congregations. A big part of the reason the early Mormons were driven out of Missouri was that they were so opposed to slavery; obviously, in a southern state, this didn't go over well. Still, the policy -- while it existed -- can only be described as discriminatory. At any rate, the ban was lifted in 1978, and since then, Blacks have had every single solitary right and privilege in the Church as Whites. Interracial marriage is also accepted.
As far as Blacks being considered "cursed angels" or anything of the sort, this is not what we believe. And during the years when many Christians justified their horrible behavior towards Black people by saying that they didn't have a human soul, the LDS Church never taught this. As a matter of fact, Joseph Smith, founder of the Church, once stated his opinion about Black people, and pointed out that the only reason that they were not as culturally and intellectually advanced as Whites was the lack of opportunity. (This would have been in the 1830s, by the way.) "Change their situation with the whites," he said, "and they would be like them." The racist policy began with Brigham Young, who was unfortunately a product of his culture and apparently didn't rise above it in this regard.
There are many differences between Mormonism and other Christian denominations, but there are also a great many similarities. Here's what I can tell you about what Mormons believe about Jesus Christ specifically. There is not, in this list of 20 key items, a single statement that is in opposition to the beliefs of traditional Christians.
1. He was the Only Begotten Son of God.
2. He was with His Father "in the beginning."
3. Under His Father's direction, He was the Creator of our universe.
4. His birth was prophesied of by the Old Testament prophets.
5. He was conceived by and born to a virgin in the small middle-eastern village of Bethlehem.
6. He lived a perfect life, never once sinning.
7. At about 30 years of age, He began His roughly three-year earthly ministry.
8. He taught a gospel of love, mercy, charity and forgiveness.
9. He called and ordained twelve men to be His "Apostles."
10. He performed many miracles, such as feeding several thousand with a few fish and a few loaves of bread, turning water into wine, calming the elements by merely saying, "Peace, be still," walking on water, giving sight to the blind, healing the lame, curing the leper, and even bringing a man who had been dead for days back to life.
11. He told His Apostles that He was going to establish His Church.
12. He was denied three times by one of His Apostles and betrayed to His enemies by another.
13. He suffered excruciating pain on our behalf, taking upon Himself our sins that we might be forgiven of them and allowed Himself to be tortured to death to save us.
14. He forgave even those who put Him to death.
15. His body lay in a borrowed tomb for three days after His death, after which time, He took it up again and was the first individual ever to be resurrected.
16. He appeared as a resurrected being to His Apostles and to several woman disciples on what has come to be known as the first "Easter."
17. He spent an additional forty days among His Apostles and disciples before then ascending into Heaven where He reigns at His Father's side today.
18. He will someday return to the Earth to reign for a thousand years.
19. When that time comes, He will stand with us as we appear before God to be judged, and will be our Mediator.
20. Because of His unimaginable love for us, He has made it possible for each of us to be resurrected and to live forever in the presence of God.
Basically, the reason for our existance can be summed up as follows: We believe that Jesus Christ established His Church as a part of His ministry. We believe that after His death and the deaths of His Apostles, men changed that Church. We believe that He has reestablished it in this day and age.
Much of that, most of that, sounds like this really strange religion...can't think of the name...............what is it?????...........OH Christianity! Yeah my religion..that one.
Well, thanks for that. Yes, it is a very "good choir."
Some people accuse us of being polytheistic, and this is probably because we do not accept the creedal definitions of God (i.e. the Nicene Creed, the Athanasian Creed, etc.). We definitely do believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ and in the Holy Ghost, but we see them as being physically distinct from one another. We see their unity as being a "oneness of will, purpose, power and glory," but not of "substance." We believe that the Father, Son and Holy Ghost share the name of "God" and function as "God," working together as "one," in a state of absolute harmony and perfect unity. We believe that all three existed "in the beginning", i.e. at the time our universe was created. We believe the Father to be the supreme member of the Godhead, the Son (or the Word) to be our Savior and Redeemer, and the Holy Ghost to be the comforter and revelator. Because we see them as three individuals, each of whom can rightfully be called "God," people say we believe in multiple gods. We also believe that the Father is the "supreme God," which is exactly what the Bible teaches.
Probably from anti-Mormon websites. For a number of years, the LDS Church held what I believe to have been a doctrine rooted in racism: Black men were not permitted to hold the Church's lay priesthood. (They actually were able to do so during the early years of Mormonism, but there were many years when a ban was in place.) During the period of time when they could not hold the priesthood, Blacks were allowed to join the Church, and never in our 182-year history have we had segregated congregations. A big part of the reason the early Mormons were driven out of Missouri was that they were so opposed to slavery; obviously, in a southern state, this didn't go over well. Still, the policy -- while it existed -- can only be described as discriminatory. At any rate, the ban was lifted in 1978, and since then, Blacks have had every single solitary right and privilege in the Church as Whites. Interracial marriage is also accepted.
As far as Blacks being considered "cursed angels" or anything of the sort, this is not what we believe. And during the years when many Christians justified their horrible behavior towards Black people by saying that they didn't have a human soul, the LDS Church never taught this. As a matter of fact, Joseph Smith, founder of the Church, once stated his opinion about Black people, and pointed out that the only reason that they were not as culturally and intellectually advanced as Whites was the lack of opportunity. (This would have been in the 1830s, by the way.) "Change their situation with the whites," he said, "and they would be like them." The racist policy began with Brigham Young, who was unfortunately a product of his culture and apparently didn't rise above it in this regard.
There are many differences between Mormonism and other Christian denominations, but there are also a great many similarities. Here's what I can tell you about what Mormons believe about Jesus Christ specifically. There is not, in this list of 20 key items, a single statement that is in opposition to the beliefs of traditional Christians.
1. He was the Only Begotten Son of God.
2. He was with His Father "in the beginning."
3. Under His Father's direction, He was the Creator of our universe.
4. His birth was prophesied of by the Old Testament prophets.
5. He was conceived by and born to a virgin in the small middle-eastern village of Bethlehem.
6. He lived a perfect life, never once sinning.
7. At about 30 years of age, He began His roughly three-year earthly ministry.
8. He taught a gospel of love, mercy, charity and forgiveness.
9. He called and ordained twelve men to be His "Apostles."
10. He performed many miracles, such as feeding several thousand with a few fish and a few loaves of bread, turning water into wine, calming the elements by merely saying, "Peace, be still," walking on water, giving sight to the blind, healing the lame, curing the leper, and even bringing a man who had been dead for days back to life.
11. He told His Apostles that He was going to establish His Church.
12. He was denied three times by one of His Apostles and betrayed to His enemies by another.
13. He suffered excruciating pain on our behalf, taking upon Himself our sins that we might be forgiven of them and allowed Himself to be tortured to death to save us.
14. He forgave even those who put Him to death.
15. His body lay in a borrowed tomb for three days after His death, after which time, He took it up again and was the first individual ever to be resurrected.
16. He appeared as a resurrected being to His Apostles and to several woman disciples on what has come to be known as the first "Easter."
17. He spent an additional forty days among His Apostles and disciples before then ascending into Heaven where He reigns at His Father's side today.
18. He will someday return to the Earth to reign for a thousand years.
19. When that time comes, He will stand with us as we appear before God to be judged, and will be our Mediator.
20. Because of His unimaginable love for us, He has made it possible for each of us to be resurrected and to live forever in the presence of God.
Basically, the reason for our existance can be summed up as follows: We believe that Jesus Christ established His Church as a part of His ministry. We believe that after His death and the deaths of His Apostles, men changed that Church. We believe that He has reestablished it in this day and age.
You know what. The Mormons did not accept the word trinity and personally I did not either I prefer Godhead..
You know what. The Mormons did not accept the word trinity and personally I did not either I prefer Godhead..
We use "Godhead" instead of Trinity -- at least in English. Spanish-speaking Mormons, however, use the word "Trinidad" as that is apparently the only word in Spanish to denote either Trinity or Godhead. Of course they understand the term "Trinidad" in the same way as their English-speaking counterparts understand the word "Godhead" -- as three divine beings who are "one" in every conceivable way except physical.
We are not electing a Bishop a Pope a Priest , Rabbi, Pastor or Imam. We are voting for president of the United States, which happens to include Unitarians, Buddhists, Moslems, Wiccans, Jews and many variety of Christians.
I don't care what "God Head" Romney believes is and actually yes, I do know what that means; nor do I care what church Barack Obama attends or does not attend. I really do not give a crap.
What I do care about is their policies and for this reason, I am voting for Barack Obama. And I do not care who he prays to or if he prays at all.
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