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Old 01-22-2014, 03:48 PM
 
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No one has ever proved that a problem existed, ....
What you are asking to prove is how many people went through stop signs, matter of fact that would be easier since we could get some hard data doing studies counting how many people go through stop signs. There isn't anyone going to poll voters to find out how many voted illegally. How many people that voted did it legally? You can't prove that can you?

This is not a crime like murder where you have a dead body and know the crime was committed.
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Old 01-22-2014, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Honestly other than handing them out in cracker jack box I'm not sure what else PA could do....
Well if PA is so desperate for voter IDs they could always mail out to every resident a non-photo voter ID and be done with it.
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Old 01-22-2014, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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What you are asking to prove is how many people went through stop signs, matter of fact that would be easier since we could get some hard data doing studies counting how many people go through stop signs. There isn't anyone going to poll voters to find out how many voted illegally. How many people that voted did it legally? You can't prove that can you?

This is not a crime like murder where you have a dead body and know the crime was committed.
Interesting, I bet you also can't prove that illegal voting is an issue or that it happens often.
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Old 01-22-2014, 04:07 PM
 
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Why is it so damn hard to prove who you are? ROLL EYES

Talk about allowing liberals, politicians and judges to call you a moron and you agreeing with it.
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Why should they have to, when it's not a problem?

I mean, hell, why was it so hard for blacks to answer a few simple questions in order to be allowed to vote?

And the only one who's ever called me a moron is you. You're such a charmer.
Actually I said liberals, politicians and judges who think it is too hard for you and anyone else to complete a one page registration is calling you and others who find it too hard a moron.

Too hard... really?
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Old 01-22-2014, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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Do you know why we don't have an ID problem here in Canada? Every single Canadian has a HEALTH CARD!!!!! LOL
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Old 01-22-2014, 04:15 PM
 
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No one has ever proved that a problem existed, in any state of the union. But the GOP continues to insist that it's out there … somewhere … maybe lurking in the bushes …
Really - It appears more that the Democrat refuse to hear that there is a problem. Here are a couple of reports of actual cases found and another showing how easy it is.

http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/a...nclick_check=1

Dead voters may have cast ballots in Dallas County | Texas Watchdog

Voter Fraud: We

Under the current system there is little way to determine if the person showing up at the voting booth is the person they say they are. Unless the person was declared dead or the real person shows up to vote at the same polling site. Outside of those two conditions, voting fraud is basically impossible to prove. The only real way to prove voter fraud would be to ID everyone.
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Old 01-22-2014, 04:24 PM
 
Location: On the Group W bench
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Actually I said liberals, politicians and judges who think it is too hard for you and anyone else to complete a one page registration is calling you and others who find it too hard a moron.

Too hard... really?
That's not the issue, though you cons would like it to be.

I repeat the question that you ignored: Why should they have to get an ID? There's no problem that this solves, so answer the question as best you can without repeating the eye rolling and deflection.
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Old 01-22-2014, 04:25 PM
 
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Well if PA is so desperate for voter IDs they could always mail out to every resident a non-photo voter ID and be done with it.
PA uses facial recognition, you can only get one ID per face and if it's fraudulent ID you have just precluded yourself from ever getting a legal one.
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Old 01-22-2014, 04:26 PM
 
Location: On the Group W bench
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Really - It appears more that the Democrat refuse to hear that there is a problem. Here are a couple of reports of actual cases found and another showing how easy it is.

http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/a...nclick_check=1

Dead voters may have cast ballots in Dallas County | Texas Watchdog

Voter Fraud: We

Under the current system there is little way to determine if the person showing up at the voting booth is the person they say they are. Unless the person was declared dead or the real person shows up to vote at the same polling site. Outside of those two conditions, voting fraud is basically impossible to prove. The only real way to prove voter fraud would be to ID everyone.
Statistically non-existent, as you probably know. I mean, OMG, alert the media, 10 whole dead voters...
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Old 01-22-2014, 04:27 PM
 
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That's not the issue, though you cons would like it to be.

I repeat the question that you ignored: Why should they have to get an ID? There's no problem that this solves, so answer the question as best you can without repeating the eye rolling and deflection.
Why shouldn't they have to get an ID? Why shouldn't they prove who they are?
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