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Old 02-25-2014, 04:09 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Sharks With Lasers View Post
From what I understand, LGBT in any flavor (basically anybody who is not a cisgender heterosexual) is about 3-5% of the population. Of that population, about 93% are cisgender, and not all of the 7% is completely transgender. So maybe about 3-4% of that population is completely transgender, putting the population at about 1 in 500.

That might be 1-2 boys in every high school.
I get that the number is small. I just don't agree with the law.

 
Old 02-25-2014, 04:54 PM
 
Location: California
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I get that the number is small. I just don't agree with the law.
You don't have to agree with it. It won't anything so you can just file it away with everything else that doesn't matter.
 
Old 02-25-2014, 05:26 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Why does something have to harm someone personally for liberals to consider it to be wrong?
Why aren't conservatives (at least the ones like you) more consistent in their beliefs regarding personal freedoms? One minute it's "Americans should be free to say/do what they want, provided they're not hurting anyone - NO NANNY LAWS!" Then you're asking why a harmless softball team decision should be allowed? Make up your minds, lol.

P.S. Something being "wrong" isn't the same as believing something shouldn't be allowed. I think Miley Cyrus is all sorts of wrong, but do I think she should be imprisoned or suppressed? Uh, no.
 
Old 02-25-2014, 09:23 PM
 
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If it's not such a big deal, why doesn't it just continue to play on the team of it's assigned gender, not the fairy tale fantasies they have on the gender it wants to be?

I'm going to get into work early tomorrow and have my shoes off with my feet on my boss' desk. When he asks me if I lost my f'n mind, I'll simply tell him in my mind, I'm the boss. He has to comply with my fantasy land or be labeled a bigot. Heck, maybe if his wife comes into the office, I'll cop myself a nice feel.....hey, it didn't 'really hurt anyone'. And in my mind, she's mine anyways.

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We had this discussion some 30-40 years ago when Renee Richards, a transgendered tennis player, petitioned to compete as a woman. Boy did everybody whoop and holler that Richards was going to have an unfair advantage. Didn't happen, not at all. And Richards was able to play competitive tennis, but she wasn't able to beat the likes of Chris Evert, Billie Jean King, or Martina Navratilova to win major titles.

The world isn't going to end. Get a grip, folks.
 
Old 02-25-2014, 10:40 PM
 
Location: California
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If it's not such a big deal, why doesn't it just continue to play on the team of it's assigned gender, not the fairy tale fantasies they have on the gender it wants to be?

I'm going to get into work early tomorrow and have my shoes off with my feet on my boss' desk. When he asks me if I lost my f'n mind, I'll simply tell him in my mind, I'm the boss. He has to comply with my fantasy land or be labeled a bigot. Heck, maybe if his wife comes into the office, I'll cop myself a nice feel.....hey, it didn't 'really hurt anyone'. And in my mind, she's mine anyways.
I have changed my mind on this issue over the years, maybe you will too. I've just reached a point where I get that I don't know it all and that there are things out there that I'll never understand.
 
Old 02-25-2014, 10:55 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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We are talking about a boy playing against girls.

You don't see how that gives Azusa High School an unfair advantage?
Nope. Happens in field hockey all the time. Title IX works both ways. Deal with it. This is the last thing the feminists expected when they helped pass this law in 1972. Now the law will take away a spot for a girl. How ironic...

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Old 02-25-2014, 11:08 PM
 
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You don't have to agree with it. It won't anything so you can just file it away with everything else that doesn't matter.
I will file it away because it won't affect me or my children. I don't live in California, and somehow I doubt Texas will be doing something like this in the near future. I just feel this law will cause some girls to not get a place on a team to make room for the current political cause du jour, or because that transgender kid is tall or fast. But, it's no skin off my back one way or the other. I was just noting my reasons for disliking the law.
 
Old 02-26-2014, 06:07 AM
 
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Harrier does not want to prevent him from playing a sport.

If he thinks that there is enough interest for a boys softball team then he can work at starting an intramural team.

He has an unfair advantage over the girls being that he is a male.

Some of the newspapers have been referring to the boy as "she".

Absolutely ridiculous.
There is no unfair advantage. The person is not playing with the girls to get ahead, but rather due to being transgender. Geez, give the kid a break.

This is like being jealous that a person who can't physically walk gets to "enjoy" sitting down in a wheelchair in a venue where everyone else is forced to remain standing, and that it's unfair other people want to sit down and he's cheating.
 
Old 02-26-2014, 06:09 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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If (s)he has a strong arm that school might be state champions for the next couple of years.
 
Old 02-26-2014, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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There is no unfair advantage. The person is not playing with the girls to get ahead, but rather due to being transgender. Geez, give the kid a break.

This is like being jealous that a person who can't physically walk gets to "enjoy" sitting down in a wheelchair in a venue where everyone else is forced to remain standing, and that it's unfair other people want to sit down and he's cheating.
A person who needs a wheelchair has an actual problem that requires the use of such a tool.

Thinking that one is "transgendered" is confusion and should not be supported.

Time was when parents and teachers taught kids right from wrong, including that there are clear differences between genders, and that one is either male or female.

Then liberalism happened and the craziness started.
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