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Old 05-02-2014, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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The problem you face is that most of the people who led those accomplishments would be condemned by today's Republicans as RINOs. By becoming this fringe extremist group, the GOP has lost its ability to celebrate that they were once led by great people like Dwight D. Eisenhower.
You're opinion based on the extreme viewpoint that everyone is an extremist. Most of the voters in this country who are Republican are moderate and not extreme. But, constantly being labeled as extremists, right-wing nut jobs, and other equally insulting names does not win any of us over to 'your' side.
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Old 05-02-2014, 11:29 AM
 
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Look at Florida, Alabama, Tennesse: low taxes and social disasters.



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Look at Texas.
Lower taxes and more jobs.

Democrat s continue with their tax the rich and throw money at the problem. Doesnt work.
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Old 05-02-2014, 11:33 AM
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Location: Florida
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You're opinion based on the extreme viewpoint that everyone is an extremist. Most of the voters in this country who are Republican are moderate and not extreme.
That's rapidly becoming no longer the case. Many of us who were moderate Republicans in the 1970s are now Democrats.

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But, constantly being labeled as extremists, right-wing nut jobs, and other equally insulting names does not win any of us over to 'your' side.
Since right-wing perspective is predicated on favoring the comfort and luxury of fewer and fewer people over the basic needs of more and more people, that's not a legitimate concern.
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Old 05-02-2014, 11:34 AM
 
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Look at Florida, Alabama, Tennesse: low taxes and social disasters.
You don't think there are social disasters in high tax states? Brooklyn? Camden, NJ?
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Old 05-02-2014, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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That's rapidly becoming no longer the case. Many of us who were moderate Republicans in the 1970s are now Democrats.
I do not believe you were ever a Republican. Funny how the most left on this board generally try to claim they were once Republicans even though every position they sound off on are and never have been the Republican viewpoint.

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Since right-wing perspective is predicated on favoring the comfort and luxury of fewer and fewer people over the basic needs of more and more people, that's not a legitimate concern.
Again, you view the Republicans that way because you are viewing it through the lens of extremism. I view Republicans policies as ones which benefit all comers, enable small businesses to thrive, and enable the free market to create conditions so everyone can succeed. To me, that's the best way to help the most people.
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Old 05-02-2014, 11:40 AM
 
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Ditto. I don't understand why this concept escapes so many people? Our great Founding Fathers were on the extreme far left of the political spectrum of XVIII century! Extreme left. This spot is now taken by communists but in 1776 it was ours and our only as our Constitution rejected monarchy and associated social structure with the privileged classes, which was the prevalent and globally accepted political system of the time.




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The Constitution was hardly the work of the ancestors of todays consertives since it was the height of progressive thinking in the 18th Century. If you were a true conservative you would have sang God Save oUr Gracious King and had tea with General Cornwallis or Howe.
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Old 05-02-2014, 11:43 AM
 
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No. Only the People pointing out to the literal understanding of our 200 years old constitution are labeled as nut jobs or rather denialists as they refuse to acknowledge all the socio-economic changes that took place since the constitution was written.



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Sorry, I thought we were talking about today, where people pointing out the Constitution are labeled as right wing nut jobs.
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Old 05-02-2014, 11:46 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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The left wing has the GI bill, the new deal, social security. What about the right wing?
I can think of one biggie. Ending slavery.

The New Deal has not been good for America, when we see what it has done to our Constitutional Republic. Progressivism has been an unmitigated disaster.
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Old 05-02-2014, 11:48 AM
 
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Towns but not the entire states! And Brooklyn by the way is not a disaster. Check Williamsburg or park slope real estate prices just for kicks...



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You don't think there are social disasters in high tax states? Brooklyn? Camden, NJ?
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Old 05-02-2014, 11:50 AM
 
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Towns but not the entire states! And Brooklyn by the way is not a disaster. Check Williamsburg or park slope real estate prices just for kicks...
There are no entire states that are disasters. You're exposing yourself.
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